Large Junggayan Kris

MrLyon101 · 2nd August 2012, 03:33 AM

I really like the ivory work. and of all things the sheath is beautiful as well. great wood work!

Sajen · 3rd August 2012, 07:23 PM

Hello Jose,

wow, what a beauty! And a perfect restauration! I hope that I will own such a nice kris one day.

Am I correct that it is a Maranao blade?

Regards,

Detlef

Battara · 3rd August 2012, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

Am I correct that it is a Maranao blade?

You are close. Actually I think it is the tribe next door: Maguindanao.

Besides they too had junggayan pommels as well as the Sulu.

Jazz · 3rd August 2012, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

You are close. Actually I think it is the tribe next door: Maguindanao.

Besides they too had junggayan pommels as well as the Sulu.

Hullo Battara,
What makes you think it's a Maguindanao blade? According to Cato's definition, your blade is the classic Maranao type: jaw jutting underneath the "beak". I thought the Maguindanao has a more open beak perpendicular to the top part of the gangya. Or are you basing it on something else?

Battara · 4th August 2012, 02:36 AM

A good question. The documented Maranao blades I have seen do have some "jutting" out of the bottom of the ganga, but the "elephant" section of the ganga does not have an "eye" and are a little larger, whereas the documented Maguindanao ones I have seen have an "eye" and do not stand as tall as the Maranao and the top of the "trunk" has deeper cuts than those of the Maranao.

Small subtleties not mentioned in Cato but there nevertheless.

Difficult to tell the difference since they are next door neighbors and very similar in style. Also according to Cato the Maranao did not use the junggayan style of pommel for their kris but instead did more chasing of okir motifs on their metal bands on their hilts.

Nathaniel · 4th August 2012, 03:05 AM

Wow, it turned out fantastic Jose! You and Maggie did a amazing job! Thanks for sharing! Always interesting to see what is possible!!!

VANDOO · 4th August 2012, 03:52 AM

I WAS ALONG WHEN THIS WAS AQUIRED AND AM HAPPY TO SEE SUCH A FINE RESTORATION. NOW SHE IS ALL DECKED OUT AND IN A GOOD HOME.

2nd August 2012, 03:33 AM	#1
MrLyon101 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 17	I really like the ivory work. and of all things the sheath is beautiful as well. great wood work!

3rd August 2012, 07:23 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,269	Hello Jose, wow, what a beauty! And a perfect restauration! I hope that I will own such a nice kris one day. Am I correct that it is a Maranao blade? Regards, Detlef

4th August 2012, 02:36 AM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,308	A good question. The documented Maranao blades I have seen do have some "jutting" out of the bottom of the ganga, but the "elephant" section of the ganga does not have an "eye" and are a little larger, whereas the documented Maguindanao ones I have seen have an "eye" and do not stand as tall as the Maranao and the top of the "trunk" has deeper cuts than those of the Maranao. Small subtleties not mentioned in Cato but there nevertheless. Difficult to tell the difference since they are next door neighbors and very similar in style. Also according to Cato the Maranao did not use the junggayan style of pommel for their kris but instead did more chasing of okir motifs on their metal bands on their hilts.

4th August 2012, 03:05 AM	#6
Nathaniel Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 865	Wow, it turned out fantastic Jose! You and Maggie did a amazing job! Thanks for sharing! Always interesting to see what is possible!!!

4th August 2012, 03:52 AM	#7
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I WAS ALONG WHEN THIS WAS AQUIRED AND AM HAPPY TO SEE SUCH A FINE RESTORATION. NOW SHE IS ALL DECKED OUT AND IN A GOOD HOME.