pikes for identification

[Matchlock]

These seem to be so-called peasants weapons (German Kriegsgabeln), Central to Northern Europe (possibly Germanic, e.g. Italian, Swiss, Austrian or German), probably 17th-18th c. though they had been in use for at least a thousand years before.

Attached are scans from a medieval painting of ca. 1440-45.

Best,
Michael

[weapons 27]

I think that the wooden handles are not original, that they have been added after does not rely a them

antoine

[weapons 27]

photos of sleeves, I do not know if they are original?

[Matchlock]

Originally Posted by weapons 27

photos of sleeves, I do not know if they are original?

Hi weapons 27,


The lower ends of these hafts are highly unusual in not being equipped with pointed iron shoes and, additionally, are rounded which makes any use both unpractical and unlikely.
The wooden hafts should at least end flat as was the case with pike hafts.

I do not think these items have a European provenance.

Could you give the overall lengths of the pieces?


Best,
Michael

[Matchlock]

For threads on early European pikes please see

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=pikes

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=pikes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pike_%28weapon%29


Attached are photos of a group of Thirty Years War pikemen (infantry) against cavalry in the Tojhusmuseet of Copenhagen, and of a reenactment scene in the style of the late 16th c.


m

[weapons 27]

hi matchlock

the length is about 1 m 30 a 1 m 45 for the longer

[Matchlock]

Originally Posted by weapons 27

hi matchlock

the length is about 1 m 30 a 1 m 45 for the longer

They are way too short to ever have been 'pikes'.

m

[Shimmerxxx]

Could these be Military Forks?

See figs 1 & 6 on first plate and fig 1 on second.

(This is my first time posting images on this forum, hope I'm doing it right).

[weapons 27]

Here are five other Pikes, known in france peaks a wolves, would have been used to repel the attacks of wolves?????

[Matchlock]

Originally Posted by weapons 27

Here are five other Pikes, known in france peaks a wolves, would have been used to repel the attacks of wolves?????

That's possible though I rather believe they were used by the peasants to fend off people.

m

[Matchlock]

A fine and unusual Swiss musket rest for a heavy matchlock musket, ca. 1600-20, combined with a very rare match holder serpentine corresponding to that of the musket, on its original carved and figured ash-wood haft and fitted with a characteristic pointed iron and copper-soldered shoe.
The iron parts retaining their 'untouched' original blackened surface.

Interestingly enough, the shoe is pierced for a nail which was never there though. Anyway, it fitted perfectly without a nail for 400 years!

Author's collection.

Best,
m