Pamor Udan Mas

GIO · 29th May 2012, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean

Thanks Gio, the blade looks similar indeed but from the pictures the pamor pattern is less regular than on the 2 others, may be made by a different person?

Regards

Yes, Jean. I seems that in my kris the dots are not regularly spread over the blade.

Paul B. · 24th January 2022, 01:21 PM

An UDAN MAS blade I spotted with 3 in a row dot arrangment.
Said to be a Tuban blade.

A. G. Maisey · 24th January 2022, 09:00 PM

Paul, it would be very unusual for a Tuban blade to have this pamor.

Tuban was not known for producing manipulated pamors of any kind.

A full length photo + a photo of the top of the gonjo would be useful in assisting a possible identification.

Paul B. · 27th January 2022, 12:04 PM

Here are some extra pics. Would welcome input.
It is really a big, strong and beefy blade. Maybe the pics don't tell.

A. G. Maisey · 27th January 2022, 08:12 PM

The pics tell very clearly Paul.

I would definitely accept this blade as stylistically Tuban.

Quite unusual I think. I cannot recall seeing a Tuban blade with manipulated pamor.

The details appear pretty crisp do we know where this has been?

Reason I ask is because we expect Tuban blades to be old, rather than young, but if this went to Europe a two or three hundred years ago, it could well look like this

24th January 2022, 01:21 PM	#2
Paul B. Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 205	An UDAN MAS blade I spotted with 3 in a row dot arrangment. Said to be a Tuban blade. Attached Images Last edited by Paul B.; 24th January 2022 at 02:46 PM.

27th January 2022, 12:04 PM	#4
Paul B. Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 205	Here are some extra pics. Would welcome input. It is really a big, strong and beefy blade. Maybe the pics don't tell. Attached Images

24th January 2022, 09:00 PM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,085	Paul, it would be very unusual for a Tuban blade to have this pamor. Tuban was not known for producing manipulated pamors of any kind. A full length photo + a photo of the top of the gonjo would be useful in assisting a possible identification.

27th January 2022, 08:12 PM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,085	The pics tell very clearly Paul. I would definitely accept this blade as stylistically Tuban. Quite unusual I think. I cannot recall seeing a Tuban blade with manipulated pamor. The details appear pretty crisp do we know where this has been? Reason I ask is because we expect Tuban blades to be old, rather than young, but if this went to Europe a two or three hundred years ago, it could well look like this