Weird Philippine sword/bolo

Sajen · 8th May 2012, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by migueldiaz

Thanks for the pics. There's a "Bucao" street in Iriga City, Albay province in the Bicol region, which province is known for producing traditional Bicol blades. And Bucao is a family name.

Iriga City by the way is a place to go to, if one is looking for newly made traditional Bicol blades.

Thank you for the further informations!

Regards,

Detlef

migueldiaz · 9th May 2012, 02:08 AM

From Malcolm Mintz's Bicol-English dictionary (thanks to Nonoy Tan):

bukaw [pronounced BOO-cow] - referring to a knife or other tool or implement which is in the process of being forged or an earthenware pot which is in the process of being worked; MA-, -ON or MAG-, PAG--ON to be in the process of working on a knife, took, pot [MDL, i.e., Marcos de Lisboa]

Rick · 9th May 2012, 04:06 AM

A work in progress; steel or clay ?
Something is missing .

migueldiaz · 9th May 2012, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

A work in progress; steel or clay ?
Something is missing .

That's all that those two dictionaries can offer

Hence the "Bucao" engraved on the blade must be referring to the owner's family name...

Robert · 9th May 2012, 07:40 AM

Seeing as it can refer to a knife, tool, other implement or pot being worked (possibly at a certain stage) could it just be a term for heat treated ??

Robert

migueldiaz · 14th May 2012, 04:33 AM

This Bicol blade is from Vandoo's collection.

The engraved "duggan" text on the blade can mean two things once again - either the family name of the former owner, or the name of a process in making the blade. On the latter, we see this definition of duggan or dugang from the Bicol-English dictionary by Mintz:

dugang - 'to cool and harden (metal after it has been cast) [MDL]'. 'MDL' refers to Marcos de Lisboa's 1754 Bicol-Spanish dictionary.

VANDOO · 18th October 2012, 07:26 PM

I JUST PICKED UP THIS LITTLE GEM. IT HAS A VERY WELL CARVED HORN HANDLE WITH A BRASS POMMEL CAP, BRASS FERRULE AND BRASS THROAT ON SCABBARD AND ONE BRASS BAND. NICE CARVED WOOD SCABBARD AND A CHISEL GROUND BLADE WITH FLORAL DESIGN ENGRAVED ON BLADE. 13 INCHES LONG IN SCABBARD, 7.5IN. BLADE. SOMEONE CRUDELY SCRATCHED IN "MADE IN P.I." ON SCABBARD WW2 BRING BACK.

14th May 2012, 04:33 AM	#6
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	This Bicol blade is from Vandoo's collection. The engraved "duggan" text on the blade can mean two things once again - either the family name of the former owner, or the name of a process in making the blade. On the latter, we see this definition of duggan or dugang from the Bicol-English dictionary by Mintz: *dugang* - 'to cool and harden (metal after it has been cast) [MDL]'. 'MDL' refers to Marcos de Lisboa's 1754 Bicol-Spanish dictionary. Attached Images

18th October 2012, 07:26 PM	#7
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	SMALL VISAYAN KNIFE ,BICOL REGION I JUST PICKED UP THIS LITTLE GEM. IT HAS A VERY WELL CARVED HORN HANDLE WITH A BRASS POMMEL CAP, BRASS FERRULE AND BRASS THROAT ON SCABBARD AND ONE BRASS BAND. NICE CARVED WOOD SCABBARD AND A CHISEL GROUND BLADE WITH FLORAL DESIGN ENGRAVED ON BLADE. 13 INCHES LONG IN SCABBARD, 7.5IN. BLADE. SOMEONE CRUDELY SCRATCHED IN "MADE IN P.I." ON SCABBARD WW2 BRING BACK. Attached Images

9th May 2012, 02:08 AM	#2
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	From Malcolm Mintz's Bicol-English dictionary (thanks to Nonoy Tan): bukaw [pronounced BOO-cow] - referring to a knife or other tool or implement which is in the process of being forged or an earthenware pot which is in the process of being worked; MA-, -ON or MAG-, PAG--ON to be in the process of working on a knife, took, pot [MDL, i.e., Marcos de Lisboa]

9th May 2012, 04:06 AM	#3
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	A work in progress; steel or clay ? Something is missing .

9th May 2012, 07:40 AM	#5
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Seeing as it can refer to a knife, tool, other implement or pot being worked (possibly at a certain stage) could it just be a term for heat treated ?? Robert