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Old 6th May 2012, 04:43 PM   #1
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Some examples from my collection.

First two are from Java, third one from Bali, fourth from Sumatra (Minankabau), fitfth from Peninsula and the last again from Sumatra (again Minangkabau).

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Old 6th May 2012, 07:54 PM   #2
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these are also old one's made of buffalo horn
(the Panjang has also the Warangka of horn)
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Old 6th May 2012, 09:25 PM   #3
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Some examples from my collection.

First two are from Java, third one from Bali, fourth from Sumatra (Minankabau), fitfth from Peninsula and the last again from Sumatra (again Minangkabau).

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Detlef
Hello Detlef,

Based on these pictures, I would guess the first 2 from java to be wood. (not horn)

Imho, buffalohorn hilts are most of the time found on "outer Island" type keris.
I have this example in my collection.


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Hello Detlef,

Based on these pictures, I would guess the first 2 from java to be wood. (not horn)
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Hello Willem,

I every time was sure about the material but when I look at the pictures I get doubts. Will test them and post the result here.

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Old 7th May 2012, 09:35 AM   #5
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Some of the hilts shown appear recently made.
Attached are 3 specimens from my collection and made from black horn, 2 from Sumatra and one from Bali (with ivory inserts).
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Old 7th May 2012, 06:36 PM   #6
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Willem,

I have tested both Java hilts and both are from horn, I have burned small pieces from the pesi hole and the smell was typical.

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Some of the hilts shown appear recently made.
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Hello Jean,

when you mean amongst others my Bali hilt you are wrong. When I bought it there was still a corroded broken piece of a pesi and hair inside the pesi hole and I need some time to get all out. From outside it have had a lot of dirt patina. Since the hilt is from horn I have cleaned it with water and soap.

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Old 7th May 2012, 07:00 PM   #8
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Here a small Lampung hilt set together from two pieces of horn.
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Old 8th May 2012, 12:31 PM   #9
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In my experience when horn is very old it seems like wood. The testing by buning pin is really good to go away any doubts.
IMO Horn hilts are very common (albino horn a little less)
Very very very difficult to find is rhino horn, also shell and coral are difficult but not as rhino
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