Damascus Saber for appreciation / Sable de Damasco para apreciación

Fernando K · 4th April 2012, 08:34 PM

Hola a todos:

Humildemente, puedo tener mis propias creencias, pero demando que alguien me explique como la parte decorativa, "scroll", sometida a la accion del ácido, no muestra el patron o diseño del damascus.

Afectuosamente. Fernando K

Hi all:

Humbly, I can have my own beliefs, but request that someone explain to me how the decorative, "scroll", under the action of acid, does not show the damascus pattern or design.

Affectionately. Fernando K

spiral · 4th April 2012, 11:39 PM

I Am not a German cutler from 1870, but know they could do such thing.

Perhaps One can deep etch the "floral work" to give depth, then lighty polish to leave the "floral etch" but smothing out the steel laminations?

As I say Ive seen such work before, but Cutlers then were very skilled, I am just an amater hobbyist.

I to would like to know how such work was done!..... Perhaps Bernard Levine on Bladeforums would know? or one of the foromites there? several are Germans with great knowledge of there old cutlers.

Spiral

PS. I think it is against forum rules to post in other languages than English ?: Or perhaps Ive misunderstood that? It seems more common now than a few years ago perhaps the rules have changed?

Emanuel · 5th April 2012, 06:05 AM

Hello,

Nice to see this old German pattern welding.

Spiral, I believe Fernando explained in one of his first posts that he is using a translator to communicate. The Spanish is translated below in English and he is including the original Spanish in case the translation is faulty and to preserve his meaning

Now this patterning was done purely for aesthetic purposes, was it not? By the 1870s Germany was producing large quantities of cast steel if I recall correctly.

Cheers,
Emanuel

spiral · 5th April 2012, 08:30 AM

Ahh that makes sense the Emmanuel! {Re. the Spanish.}

Decorative? I expect so! More costly? Definatly!

Spiral

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 6th April 2012, 05:32 PM

Salaams all~ As Spiral was saying...is this not a laminated blade? If so it must have been given the wootz treatment afterwards no? That would explain why it is not damascened on the scrolls. What then is or was the process?

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

4th April 2012, 08:34 PM	#1
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 671	Hola a todos: Humildemente, puedo tener mis propias creencias, pero demando que alguien me explique como la parte decorativa, "scroll", sometida a la accion del ácido, no muestra el patron o diseño del damascus. Afectuosamente. Fernando K Hi all: Humbly, I can have my own beliefs, but request that someone explain to me how the decorative, "scroll", under the action of acid, does not show the damascus pattern or design. Affectionately. Fernando K

4th April 2012, 11:39 PM	#2
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	I Am not a German cutler from 1870, but know they could do such thing. Perhaps One can deep etch the "floral work" to give depth, then lighty polish to leave the "floral etch" but smothing out the steel laminations? As I say Ive seen such work before, but Cutlers then were very skilled, I am just an amater hobbyist. I to would like to know how such work was done!..... Perhaps Bernard Levine on Bladeforums would know? or one of the foromites there? several are Germans with great knowledge of there old cutlers. Spiral PS. I think it is against forum rules to post in other languages than English ?: Or perhaps Ive misunderstood that? It seems more common now than a few years ago perhaps the rules have changed?

5th April 2012, 06:05 AM	#3
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Hello, Nice to see this old German pattern welding. Spiral, I believe Fernando explained in one of his first posts that he is using a translator to communicate. The Spanish is translated below in English and he is including the original Spanish in case the translation is faulty and to preserve his meaning Now this patterning was done purely for aesthetic purposes, was it not? By the 1870s Germany was producing large quantities of cast steel if I recall correctly. Cheers, Emanuel

5th April 2012, 08:30 AM	#4
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Ahh that makes sense the Emmanuel! {Re. the Spanish.} Decorative? I expect so! More costly? Definatly! Spiral

6th April 2012, 05:32 PM	#5
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	Salaams all~ As Spiral was saying...is this not a laminated blade? If so it must have been given the wootz treatment afterwards no? That would explain why it is not damascened on the scrolls. What then is or was the process? Regards, Ibrahiim al Balooshi.