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			I don`t believe that the excavated condition was the reason for the price. Many excavated bronze barrels are in a remarkably good condition, or can be improved by slight restoration. The reason for the low interest was that it is only a half barrel! Which serious collector wants to acquire a half barrel? For this poor fragment €3200,- incl. Premium is a high price! 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			As I said, the overall condition is what matters. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Classing this piece, I wish to state that we all sort of automatically seeem to tend to addressing any kind of copper-alloy work of art as 'bronze'. Me included.   
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	  Several times before here, I have pointed out that the historic 500-year-old period term for this tye of cast barrels used in the inventory books of the Maximilian armories was 'Messing', which is brass. Of course, it depends on the alloy used. I guess it is just because it sounds more valuable that the term bronze has come into such wide-spread usage. m  | 
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