More Moro(?) spears....

CharlesS · 27th March 2012, 04:53 PM

Nacho,

Very interesting spear, and had someone asked be about it without having any clue torwards its actual attribution, I would be very pulled between Moro and Sumatran....Sumatran primarily because of the way the haft is worked.

Very interesting piece!

nacho · 27th March 2012, 05:46 PM

This was posted by Lee, Nov 16, 2010. Similarly with incised decoration on silver. This one also has a twistcore blade.

Battara · 27th March 2012, 10:41 PM

What about Chinese Moros? There were some who had Chinese in their blood, and I heard of one even becoming a datu..........

harimauhk · 28th March 2012, 03:17 AM

The Chinese have definitely long been in and out of the Philippines: I was recently down in Basilan and Zamboanga, a stone's throw from Sulu, and there were Chinese businesses everywhere, even with the very real threat of shootouts and bombings. There has long been Chinese influence in the region. There was some very nice Chinese trade pottery on display at the museums in Sabah, Borneo too.

Battara · 28th March 2012, 02:38 PM

Thank you Harimauhk, my point exactly.

nacho · 28th March 2012, 03:20 PM

Speaking of Chinese in Sulu, the current governor of Sulu is Abdusakur Tan. I guess the "Tan" surname indicates he has Chinese lineage.

kino · 14th June 2015, 05:27 PM

It's not exactly plural. Adding to CharlesS complement of Chinese influenced Moro spears is this example. Described as a civilian Chinese spear, is an oddly shaped budiak. The spear head is ~12 in., from the tip to bottom of ferrule 22 in.
In my interpretation the etchings on the ferrule suggests that spring is in the air.

27th March 2012, 05:46 PM	#2
nacho Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Makati Posts: 69	This was posted by Lee, Nov 16, 2010. Similarly with incised decoration on silver. This one also has a twistcore blade. Attached Images

14th June 2015, 05:27 PM	#7
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,020	Birds and the bees It's not exactly plural. Adding to CharlesS complement of Chinese influenced Moro spears is this example. Described as a civilian Chinese spear, is an oddly shaped budiak. The spear head is ~12 in., from the tip to bottom of ferrule 22 in. In my interpretation the etchings on the ferrule suggests that spring is in the air. Attached Images

27th March 2012, 04:53 PM	#1
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	Nacho, Very interesting spear, and had someone asked be about it without having any clue torwards its actual attribution, I would be very pulled between Moro and Sumatran....Sumatran primarily because of the way the haft is worked. Very interesting piece!

27th March 2012, 10:41 PM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,323	What about Chinese Moros? There were some who had Chinese in their blood, and I heard of one even becoming a datu..........

28th March 2012, 03:17 AM	#4
harimauhk Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 88	The Chinese have definitely long been in and out of the Philippines: I was recently down in Basilan and Zamboanga, a stone's throw from Sulu, and there were Chinese businesses everywhere, even with the very real threat of shootouts and bombings. There has long been Chinese influence in the region. There was some very nice Chinese trade pottery on display at the museums in Sabah, Borneo too.

28th March 2012, 02:38 PM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,323	Thank you Harimauhk, my point exactly.

28th March 2012, 03:20 PM	#6
nacho Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Makati Posts: 69	Speaking of Chinese in Sulu, the current governor of Sulu is Abdusakur Tan. I guess the "Tan" surname indicates he has Chinese lineage.