STRANGE kERIS BLADE

mykeris · 25th August 2005, 09:44 AM

Thanks Alam Shah for posting sample from the book. I agree, its almost the same. I could see similarity in dapur, pamor and Luk too. Unusual Luk 8 for this kind of keris. It must be a real genuine keris then

. Thanks again.

purwacarita · 25th August 2005, 03:04 PM

Hi mykeris, Alam Shah. I did not put the comments from the perspective to determine whether the keris is genuine or not. The way I see the second keris, the corrosion at buntut mimi of ganja and carving at sraweyan area is at good balance. The vertical line between gandik and blumbangan is also perfect match with the ganja line, where the first keris' is not. No? Sorry in case to melt down the overjoy, it is not my intention. ~IBS

Alam Shah · 25th August 2005, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by purwacarita

Hi mykeris, Alam Shah. I did not put the comments from the perspective to determine whether the keris is genuine or not. The way I see the second keris, the corrosion at buntut mimi of ganja and carving at sraweyan area is at good balance. The vertical line between gandik and blumbangan is also perfect match with the ganja line, where the first keris' is not. No? Sorry in case to melt down the overjoy, it is not my intention. ~IBS

Hi,
I agree that the similarities does not mean that the first keris is genuine.

All I'm implying is that there are keris of such design. Whether the piece is genuine or not, I wouldn't know.

mykeris · 25th August 2005, 04:17 PM

Purwacarita & Alam Shah. Thanks for your views. It doesnt matter. I am amazed to see another example of such keris. Whether the first keris is genuine or non-genuine is secondary to me. Most important, your willingness to give your views. I must thank you people.

Raja Muda · 9th September 2005, 05:01 AM

Hi Mykeris,

Your post has started me on a quest of sorts

. I made contact with Abdul Razzaq Lubis, a Penang based researcher on Mandailing history and culture and by happy coincidence he turns out to a direct descendant of Tuanku Raja Bilah from the maternal side. He's even published book on Raja Bilah's exploits in Papan complete with the original letters and materials now stored in the national archives.
He runs a very informative site where I found some old pictures of Mandailing Rajas and their retainers:

http://www.mandailing.org/Eng/old%20...e-Hochzeit.jpg

http://www.mandailing.org/Eng/old%20...0Pekanten.html

Http://www.mandailing.org/Eng/old%20...%20gefolge.jpg

Some kerises can be seen lurking in the pictures, though I wish they were much clearer to see.
Basically the outward dress of these kerises look Malay or Minangkabau to me. Any ideas anyone?

25th August 2005, 09:44 AM	#1
mykeris Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 278	Thanks Alam Shah for posting sample from the book. I agree, its almost the same. I could see similarity in dapur, pamor and Luk too. Unusual Luk 8 for this kind of keris. It must be a real genuine keris then . Thanks again. Last edited by mykeris; 25th August 2005 at 09:46 AM. Reason: add info

9th September 2005, 05:01 AM	#5
Raja Muda Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 100	Keris in Mandailing Lands Hi Mykeris, Your post has started me on a quest of sorts . I made contact with Abdul Razzaq Lubis, a Penang based researcher on Mandailing history and culture and by happy coincidence he turns out to a direct descendant of Tuanku Raja Bilah from the maternal side. He's even published book on Raja Bilah's exploits in Papan complete with the original letters and materials now stored in the national archives. He runs a very informative site where I found some old pictures of Mandailing Rajas and their retainers: http://www.mandailing.org/Eng/old%20...e-Hochzeit.jpg http://www.mandailing.org/Eng/old%20...0Pekanten.html Http://www.mandailing.org/Eng/old%20...%20gefolge.jpg Some kerises can be seen lurking in the pictures, though I wish they were much clearer to see. Basically the outward dress of these kerises look Malay or Minangkabau to me. Any ideas anyone? Last edited by Raja Muda; 9th September 2005 at 05:14 AM.

25th August 2005, 03:04 PM	#2
purwacarita Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 54	Hi mykeris, Alam Shah. I did not put the comments from the perspective to determine whether the keris is genuine or not. The way I see the second keris, the corrosion at buntut mimi of ganja and carving at sraweyan area is at good balance. The vertical line between gandik and blumbangan is also perfect match with the ganja line, where the first keris' is not. No? Sorry in case to melt down the overjoy, it is not my intention. ~IBS

25th August 2005, 04:17 PM	#4
mykeris Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 278	Purwacarita & Alam Shah. Thanks for your views. It doesnt matter. I am amazed to see another example of such keris. Whether the first keris is genuine or non-genuine is secondary to me. Most important, your willingness to give your views. I must thank you people.