You may know them as Omani Saifs but they will always be Kattara to me

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 29th February 2012, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by kahnjar1

Green with envy Michael. My vote is also Kattara.
Stu

Salaams Khanjar 1... I would have thought you would be in favour of having the right Omani nomenclature for Omani Swords... not the wrong one.

Regards Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

Michael Blalock · 29th February 2012, 01:43 PM

Ibrahiim, I am all for using the correct nomenclature, hence the title of my post which was meant to be a humorous play on a line from the American television show Seinfeld. A character, Peterman, says "You may know it as Myanmar but it will always be Burma to me" I thought it would be a funny twist on the concept of western romanticism of the east. Maybe there are not a lot of Seinfeld fans out there who would have seen the connection.

Rick · 29th February 2012, 04:58 PM

No soup for you !

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 29th February 2012, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Blalock

Ibrahiim, I am all for using the correct nomenclature, hence the title of my post which was meant to be a humorous play on a line from the American television show Seinfeld. A character, Peterman, says "You may know it as Myanmar but it will always be Burma to me" I thought it would be a funny twist on the concept of western romanticism of the east. Maybe there are not a lot of Seinfeld fans out there who would have seen the connection.

Salaams Michael Blalock ... Sorry I missed the pun... Seinfeld?

ha! What happenend to the input you were going to have a look at on the Algerian gun mark at Kattara for comments? It would be most helpful please and would tidy that detail up. I like the use of the word cousin in sword terminology thanks for that ..
Of course you also need to observe that your pictures of swords in Saudia and Yemen (souk and museum) shots were very inspiring in the research and outcome (so far) of this fascinating subject.
I think we are all generally on the same page on this though there is still much work to do and there will always be those out there who need to be convinced that bananas are curved and carrots are straight even though the odd exceptional blue or spotty variant with the contrary bend appears; they are generally, like the sword, considered curiosities or as we say Hybrids.

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

kahnjar1 · 29th February 2012, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

Salaams Khanjar 1... I would have thought you would be in favour of having the right Omani nomenclature for Omani Swords... not the wrong one.

Regards Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

............ and the fish bit hard!

Its like calling those long daggers from Western KSA "wahabite" when in fact they have a proper name. I think you have convinced us that the straight sword is called Sayf/Saif and the curved one Kattara.

TVV · 29th February 2012, 07:21 PM

Congratulations Michael, very nice kattara complete with original scabbard (even though the scabbard is not in great shape). The blade truly is a saber blade. Mine has what looks like a shashka blade:

http://vikingsword.com/vb/showthread...hlight=kattara

Interesting to see that apart from the influx of Caucasian blades, there was also trade with Europe well into the 19th century.

Regards,
Teodor

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 1st March 2012, 03:36 PM

Salaams all ~ The design on tehe scabbards is interesting and follows a design also seem in Omani Architectural windows decoration. Swirl design goes way back in history and it is evident that it has passed through older sword scabbard design onto the straight SAYF dancing blades and curved Kattara. For the "Full Monty" on Omani swords readers are invited to view Kattara for comments where the academic discussion is fully aired.

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

29th February 2012, 01:43 PM	#2
Michael Blalock Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: dc Posts: 271	Ibrahiim, I am all for using the correct nomenclature, hence the title of my post which was meant to be a humorous play on a line from the American television show Seinfeld. A character, Peterman, says "You may know it as Myanmar but it will always be Burma to me" I thought it would be a funny twist on the concept of western romanticism of the east. Maybe there are not a lot of Seinfeld fans out there who would have seen the connection.

29th February 2012, 04:58 PM	#3
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,347	No soup for you !

29th February 2012, 07:21 PM	#6
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,666	Congratulations Michael, very nice kattara complete with original scabbard (even though the scabbard is not in great shape). The blade truly is a saber blade. Mine has what looks like a shashka blade: http://vikingsword.com/vb/showthread...hlight=kattara Interesting to see that apart from the influx of Caucasian blades, there was also trade with Europe well into the 19th century. Regards, Teodor

1st March 2012, 03:36 PM	#7
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	Salaams all ~ The design on tehe scabbards is interesting and follows a design also seem in Omani Architectural windows decoration. Swirl design goes way back in history and it is evident that it has passed through older sword scabbard design onto the straight SAYF dancing blades and curved Kattara. For the "Full Monty" on Omani swords readers are invited to view Kattara for comments where the academic discussion is fully aired. Regards, Ibrahiim al Balooshi.