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			And here is the sister to the cranequin that Michael posted. 
		
		
		
			It's located in Skokloster in Sweden. It's from the same maker but it is a bit more stripped, not much of housing left.  | 
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			I was told that this one was preserved in The Royal Armouries Leeds but it was not on display when I was there, nor was is exhibited in The Tower of London. 
		
		
		
			Does anybody have a clue - Micke? Best, Michael  | 
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			I just found out it actually is in Leeds. Here is more of it. 
		
		
		
			In our opinion, this item should be definitely dated about a quarter of a century earlier than the RA believe it is. m Last edited by Matchlock; 26th February 2012 at 07:23 PM.  | 
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			I think that this one could be from 1480-1490 or something like that, based on the strange and probably early four-axle lock mechanism.  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			I have written a little article explaining my thoughts about how this one is related to two other 15th c crossbows. This one wasn't displayed when I was at Leeds either, but the floor with the hunting stuff was closed for rebuilding/rearranging or something like that. I don't know if it has been displayed in modern times at all? I guess there would be more photos of it if it has been shown. Last edited by Micke D; 27th February 2012 at 10:20 AM.  | 
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			Where was that article of yours published? Could you share it with us? 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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 I found a different view. m  | 
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			This item is labeled as 16th century but I think it should rather be assigned to the 17th c. and was designed for hunting purposes. 
		
		
		
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			Please note the excellent and complete overall condition, the way that the numeral 7 is struck within Gothic trefoil ornament, the punched decoration which is stylistically characteristic of the period around 1540, the brass- or gold-inlaid maker's mark, an arrow and two pellets, and the leather covered cord loop. 
		
		
		
			It was hammered down at 6,500 Swiss Francs at Fischer, Lucerne, in September 2010. This Nuremberg workshop arrow mark is also found on the barrels of matchlock Landsknecht arquebuses preserved in the Bayerisches Armeemuseum Ingolstadt, together with the same date 1537; this group of arquebuses was restocked in 1619 (two images attached). Best, Michael  | 
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 Hi Micke, Please forgive my stupidity, and my not asking earlier: Would you please be so kind and post that article of yours? It concerns a crossbow in the Royal Armouries Leeds, posts #88 and #89. Thanks in advance, and eagerly looking forward to some good reading, Michael  | 
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