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|  21st February 2012, 02:52 PM | #1 | 
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				 |  A Landsknecht Sword, ca. 1525, in the Museum of Grandson, Switzerland 
			
			The one on top, in excavated condition, the tip of the blade missing. Please note the pretzel-shaped quillons of traditional Katzbalger type. Also illustrated, from top: - a characteristic Swiss dagger (Schweizer Dolch), retaining its boxwood or fruitwood grip, 1st half 16th c. - an Italian knightly sword, ca. 1500 - a rapier, 2nd half 16th c. Best, Michael Last edited by Matchlock; 22nd February 2012 at 02:00 PM. | 
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|  21st February 2012, 03:05 PM | #2 | 
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				 |  A Swiss Two-Hand Sword, 1540's, in the Museum of Grandson 
			
			Enjoy. m Last edited by Matchlock; 22nd February 2012 at 02:01 PM. | 
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|  23rd February 2012, 05:24 PM | #3 | 
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			beautiful swords, the knightly sword I think it can be dated a little earlier. Oakeshott Type XV was there from 1350-1550, the pommel oakeshot type J with hollowed faces came in more around and after 1425 frequently. (and before 1250). additional 2-handsword with similar blade as nr 2 Grandson best, | 
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|  28th February 2012, 12:14 PM | #4 | 
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				 |  Katzbalgers with Accessories (By-knives, Beiwerkzeug) 
			
			These accessories (which were also integral parts of the sheaths of period hand-and-half swords) usually comprised all sorts af practical small tools the Landsknecht had to make everyday use of: at least one knife, a two-pointed fork, an awl or bodkin for mending clothes, a pricker etc. To my knowledge, these accessories are only preserved together with the personal Katzbalger af Ulrich von Schellenberg in the Vienna Waffensammlung, of which I posted images in this thread before. Here are some additional, plus the measurements: http://gs19.inmotionhosting.com/~mil...mes/read/12291 Of course, lots of detached accessories are known; in my collection, e.g. there a by-knife with a bone handle, the blade struck with a star-shaped maker's mark and the bronze pommel dated 1528 on the obverse and struck with three similar starks on the reverse. These were charcteristic makes of the cutlers' guild. The shapes of their pommels were designed to match and often mirrored that of the pommel of the (main) weapon, the Grosses Messer, Katzbalger or hand-and-half sword. The period artwork is taken from Cod. Pal. germ. 128, Franz Helm, Buch von den probierten Künsten (Book on Tested Arts), 1535. Attached below is a very fine late Maximilian type of by-knife, ca. 1520-5, most probably from the sheath of a fine hunting sword or saber. Best, Michael Last edited by Matchlock; 28th February 2012 at 01:18 PM. | 
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|  28th February 2012, 01:23 PM | #5 | 
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			More of 1535.
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|  28th February 2012, 01:35 PM | #6 | 
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			More of 1535. And a very fine and rare sheath with two compartments for by-knives, of wood stained read and green, the characteristic colors of the Late Gothic/Early Reniaasance era, covered with tooled leather decorated with Early-Renaissance roped (German: geschnürlt) ornament found on all contemporary works of art including weapons, most probably detached from a larger sheath, late 16th century, length 23.1 cm. For a similar sheath in period artwork, please see my post on the figure in the Museum of Weißenburg on top of this page. One more image attached as a reminder. Best, Michael Last edited by Matchlock; 28th February 2012 at 02:11 PM. | 
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|  28th February 2012, 01:45 PM | #7 | |
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 Thank you, Jasper, for posting this. I must ask: where is this fine item? Best, Michael | |
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|  28th February 2012, 06:45 PM | #8 | |
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 it is from my own collection. best, | |
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|  28th February 2012, 07:01 PM | #9 | 
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			That's what I was hoping!     May we see more of it? Any marks? Thanks and best, Michael | 
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|  1st March 2012, 08:17 AM | #10 | 
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			of course! best, | 
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