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			http://www.handgonne.com/gonne_1a.html 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Michael, I think that 14 is the wrong date. What do You think about this barrel? It dont't looks like european at all  
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			It's of Chinese origin and probably 18th c., that's why it doesn't look European. There are many of these around on the market. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			A German bronze hackbut c.1470-1500. Lenght 780 mm,  
		
		
		
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			Good job, Swordfish, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Where is this barrel, which was originally fitted with a tiller stock and later alterated to full-stock, preserved? Best, Michael  | 
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			Here are two hackbuts from Sweden: 
		
		
		
			http://www.historiska.se/data/?foremal=123316 With remains of the wooden shaft. Found in Skåne in the region of Norra Åsum, this one is undated. Barrel 101 cm, calibre 19 mm http://www.historiska.se/data/?foremal=115866 Found in Stockholm, dated to the late middle ages. Barrel 106 cm, calibre not mentioned.  | 
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