The traditional art of keris making

Pusaka · 17th December 2011, 04:15 PM

Found another list:

Karangkijang, iron is a fiber such as sea water, this is the 'priest' of iron; black rather blue; if beaten slow voice sounds like bees to fly. Power metal is cool and powerful.

Pulasani, iron that looks like stone Asih, silvery green color / nyamberlilen; if beaten slowly sound: Gurr ... Power is sincere, bring food and degrees, both used as the hereditary material.

Mengangkang, the iron is plain, black slightly purple. This type of iron, there are two kinds: Mengangkang men if its beaten slow sound: Drungngng ... (long echo it). Power is excellent, adding that authority. Mengankang women beaten slowly if it sounds like the voice ambrengengeng bees fly. Its power, and be the person to bring sustenance.

Walulin, such as the ironof malela sand (visible crystals that shine in the show surface), the color is rather blue; if its beaten slow sound: Gung ... vibrant, clever appearance (dry impressive). Power is respected, the people, both to keep livestock.

Katub, is like a hair iron, black and slightly green color, shine; if beaten slowly sound: Kung, ambrengengeng such as bees fly. Immune to its power and good for traders.

Kamboja, the iron is a bit of white color, luster fiber; if its beaten slow sound: Ngong Tong-... nging long. This is the 'princess' of iron; the owner can not be adultery. Power is respected people.

Welangi, iron which said came from the sea; colored sulfur; if beaten slowly sounds: Nging ... ambrengengeng sound like bees to fly. Its power for safety and easy to find sustenance, but may not be the money.

Ambal, iron, which is reddish blue, which they say comes from the mountain rock. If beaten slowly, the sound ambrengengeng vibrate. If the material is used as a keris, ambal iron can be powerful and 'draw' other inheritance.

Tumpang, iron is given the title of 'the key of the iron'. Slightly blue purple; The noise if slowly beaten sound: Jrung ... its long reverberation. Power both to its strength and authority.

Winduadi, it seems that iron is derived from the throat Sang Hyang Mudikbathara. White and blue is like glass; The noise if slowly beaten soundung... Power for his strength and fortitude, not submerged in water.

Werani, it seems that iron is derived from Mount Srandil; black quite like purple flowers pupil. The noise if slowly beaten sound: ambrengengeng sound like bees to fly. Power is very powerful, if the owners are in a strong, rank and rank will be increased; if not strong, even the poor.

Terate, iron is black like a mossy, perhaps derived from the stone Asih. If it hit slow like the sound of bees fly. Power is far from the scandal and easy in approach women.

Malela Ruyun, it seems that iron is derived from cendani stone, slightly blue-white, stringy like hair. The noise if slowly beaten sound: Preng ... vibrate. Its power to increase the firmness, courage and faith.

Balitung, the good, the iron is derived from the stone, black purple slightly soupy. The noise if slowly beaten sound: Ting ... long. Power is good for fishermen.

Kenur, is a black iron shine like crow-quill. The noise if slowly beaten sound: Srung ... ambrengengeng. Charged for both merchants and save money.

Malela Kendaga, also called Loya irons; if its beaten slow sound: Tung ... Power to increase its courage and fortitude to keep the faith.

Tumbuk, it seems that iron is derived from Ceylon, slightly yellow, white, sparkling like coral reefs. The noise if is slowly beaten sound: Gong ambrengengeng. Power both to save the property, and the jinn and devils fear Him.

http://kerisjawadwipa.blogspot.com/

PenangsangII · 18th December 2011, 02:43 AM

types of wesi mentioned above can be best identified by somebody who is an empu keris or at least a pandai keris. Or maybe by people who live around an active empu. Those are types of "tosan aji" that make up what keris is all about. My guru would call the tosan aji as the essence of a keris and this is what we call the "soul" of a keris. Without a tosan aji, a keris is soulless and it may be called just an 'ageman' or worse as 'keris kerisan' (keris-like object)

Pusaka · 18th December 2011, 12:33 PM

But is this to be taken literally (16 types of wesi) or symbolically because I know the number 16 has a symbolic meaning with relation to the keris which seems to be ancient. For example in some systems the blade of the keris is divided into sixteen segments and a meaning is given to each of these segments.

PenangsangII · 18th December 2011, 01:14 PM

Pusaka, I am not an empu or pandai keris, nor living in keris making environment. But I do know that not all the 16 types of wesi are compatible to be forged in one keris. The number of metals that is required to form a keris normally is 3 - baja, besi murni pengikat pamor and pamor material. However, to create a pusaka, a few more types of wesi aji need to be added up, though they may be small in quantity. For example, for the keris body, 3 3 types of metal are sufficient. But in order to make it a keris bertuah, an empu would add the 3 with a few types of wesi aji, such as wesi werani, pulasani, besi wali etc. The so called besi aji are not to be obtained by purchasing. They need to be called by the empu thru certain ritual (ie mutih, patigeni and zikir) and to be asked whether 'they' agree to be forged for so and so's pusaka.

Talking about keris would not be complete without talking about the isoteric aspect of it.

Pusaka · 18th December 2011, 04:04 PM

One thing I noticed is that so far I have not seen a list in which one of the wesi was from meteorite Iron which I think is strange as every other type of Iron is listed.

I was told by one guru that this knowledge actually related to a secret which concerns esoteric knowledge of the human body i.e. is not to be taken literally but a person should seek to understand its deeper meaning.

David · 18th December 2011, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pusaka

One thing I noticed is that so far I have not seen a list in which one of the wesi was from meteorite Iron which I think is strange as every other type of Iron is listed.

Why do you find this so strange? What could this possibly tell us about the use of meteoric ore in old keris?

PenangsangII · 19th December 2011, 12:33 AM

wesi meteor as pamor material that can be 100 pct proven is in the PB / HB era as Prambanan meteor till today still exist for everyone to see.

in the older era, wesi pamor that was used are from earth, that may have originally come from the sky as 'bapa angkasa' thousands or even millions of yrs ago.

17th December 2011, 04:15 PM	#1
Pusaka Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 341	Found another list: Karangkijang, iron is a fiber such as sea water, this is the 'priest' of iron; black rather blue; if beaten slow voice sounds like bees to fly. Power metal is cool and powerful. Pulasani, iron that looks like stone Asih, silvery green color / nyamberlilen; if beaten slowly sound: Gurr ... Power is sincere, bring food and degrees, both used as the hereditary material. Mengangkang, the iron is plain, black slightly purple. This type of iron, there are two kinds: Mengangkang men if its beaten slow sound: Drungngng ... (long echo it). Power is excellent, adding that authority. Mengankang women beaten slowly if it sounds like the voice ambrengengeng bees fly. Its power, and be the person to bring sustenance. Walulin, such as the ironof malela sand (visible crystals that shine in the show surface), the color is rather blue; if its beaten slow sound: Gung ... vibrant, clever appearance (dry impressive). Power is respected, the people, both to keep livestock. Katub, is like a hair iron, black and slightly green color, shine; if beaten slowly sound: Kung, ambrengengeng such as bees fly. Immune to its power and good for traders. Kamboja, the iron is a bit of white color, luster fiber; if its beaten slow sound: Ngong Tong-... nging long. This is the 'princess' of iron; the owner can not be adultery. Power is respected people. Welangi, iron which said came from the sea; colored sulfur; if beaten slowly sounds: Nging ... ambrengengeng sound like bees to fly. Its power for safety and easy to find sustenance, but may not be the money. Ambal, iron, which is reddish blue, which they say comes from the mountain rock. If beaten slowly, the sound ambrengengeng vibrate. If the material is used as a keris, ambal iron can be powerful and 'draw' other inheritance. Tumpang, iron is given the title of 'the key of the iron'. Slightly blue purple; The noise if slowly beaten sound: Jrung ... its long reverberation. Power both to its strength and authority. Winduadi, it seems that iron is derived from the throat Sang Hyang Mudikbathara. White and blue is like glass; The noise if slowly beaten soundung... Power for his strength and fortitude, not submerged in water. Werani, it seems that iron is derived from Mount Srandil; black quite like purple flowers pupil. The noise if slowly beaten sound: ambrengengeng sound like bees to fly. Power is very powerful, if the owners are in a strong, rank and rank will be increased; if not strong, even the poor. Terate, iron is black like a mossy, perhaps derived from the stone Asih. If it hit slow like the sound of bees fly. Power is far from the scandal and easy in approach women. Malela Ruyun, it seems that iron is derived from cendani stone, slightly blue-white, stringy like hair. The noise if slowly beaten sound: Preng ... vibrate. Its power to increase the firmness, courage and faith. Balitung, the good, the iron is derived from the stone, black purple slightly soupy. The noise if slowly beaten sound: Ting ... long. Power is good for fishermen. Kenur, is a black iron shine like crow-quill. The noise if slowly beaten sound: Srung ... ambrengengeng. Charged for both merchants and save money. Malela Kendaga, also called Loya irons; if its beaten slow sound: Tung ... Power to increase its courage and fortitude to keep the faith. Tumbuk, it seems that iron is derived from Ceylon, slightly yellow, white, sparkling like coral reefs. The noise if is slowly beaten sound: Gong ambrengengeng. Power both to save the property, and the jinn and devils fear Him. http://kerisjawadwipa.blogspot.com/

18th December 2011, 02:43 AM	#2
PenangsangII Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 401	types of wesi mentioned above can be best identified by somebody who is an empu keris or at least a pandai keris. Or maybe by people who live around an active empu. Those are types of "tosan aji" that make up what keris is all about. My guru would call the tosan aji as the essence of a keris and this is what we call the "soul" of a keris. Without a tosan aji, a keris is soulless and it may be called just an 'ageman' or worse as 'keris kerisan' (keris-like object)

18th December 2011, 12:33 PM	#3
Pusaka Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 341	But is this to be taken literally (16 types of wesi) or symbolically because I know the number 16 has a symbolic meaning with relation to the keris which seems to be ancient. For example in some systems the blade of the keris is divided into sixteen segments and a meaning is given to each of these segments.

18th December 2011, 01:14 PM	#4
PenangsangII Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 401	Pusaka, I am not an empu or pandai keris, nor living in keris making environment. But I do know that not all the 16 types of wesi are compatible to be forged in one keris. The number of metals that is required to form a keris normally is 3 - baja, besi murni pengikat pamor and pamor material. However, to create a pusaka, a few more types of wesi aji need to be added up, though they may be small in quantity. For example, for the keris body, 3 3 types of metal are sufficient. But in order to make it a keris bertuah, an empu would add the 3 with a few types of wesi aji, such as wesi werani, pulasani, besi wali etc. The so called besi aji are not to be obtained by purchasing. They need to be called by the empu thru certain ritual (ie mutih, patigeni and zikir) and to be asked whether 'they' agree to be forged for so and so's pusaka. Talking about keris would not be complete without talking about the isoteric aspect of it.

18th December 2011, 04:04 PM	#5
Pusaka Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 341	One thing I noticed is that so far I have not seen a list in which one of the wesi was from meteorite Iron which I think is strange as every other type of Iron is listed. I was told by one guru that this knowledge actually related to a secret which concerns esoteric knowledge of the human body i.e. is not to be taken literally but a person should seek to understand its deeper meaning.

19th December 2011, 12:33 AM	#7
PenangsangII Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 401	wesi meteor as pamor material that can be 100 pct proven is in the PB / HB era as Prambanan meteor till today still exist for everyone to see. in the older era, wesi pamor that was used are from earth, that may have originally come from the sky as 'bapa angkasa' thousands or even millions of yrs ago.