barrels with tube fastening in 1470-80

[Spiridonov]

Originally Posted by Matchlock

I marked the touchhole which markes the beginning of the breech (powder chamber); behind it is the tiller socket (now empty).

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I mean chamber tapering inside of barrel (Like on Tannenberg handgonne). This barrel both was made with very high quality and have a very thin sids. We can see similar barrels on this Spanish tapestry

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...light=tapestry

[fernando]

Originally Posted by Spiridonov

... We can see similar barrels on this Spanish tapestry ...

You mean Portuguese

[Spiridonov]

Originally Posted by fernando

You mean Portuguese

Of course, I'm sorry

[Matchlock]

[QUOTE=Spiridonov]I mean chamber tapering inside of barrel (Like on Tannenberg handgonne). [/QUOTE.

I think this should be actually called a bore narrowing behind a bell-mouthed or widened muzzle.

I have often found this with a lot of 15th c. barrels when exactly measured, e.g. with my own famous haquebut barrel dated 1481, which you yourself handled in my collection. I think it was just an easy method to simplify loading the gun, especially with any kind of shot.

Please ref.: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ich+dated+1481

Anyway, youre doubtlessly right concering the unusually thinness at the bronze muzzle walls - that's really astounding, especially for bronze! Seems to have worked in a way, though ...


Best,
Michael

[Spiridonov]

I think this should be actually called a bore narrowing behind a bell-mouthed or widened muzzle.

Michael I mean not a bore narrowing but this part of barrel:

[Matchlock]

Hi Alexander,

I don't know whether this barrel has a narrowed bore at the breech but regarding its date I doubt it has.

Best,
Michael

[Matchlock]

An unusually large (135 cm long) and heavy (ca. 15 kg) wrought iron tiller-socketed haquebut barrel, ca. 1490-1500, sold at the Dorotheum Vienna a few days ago. It fteched more than 9,300 euro.
On top of the end of the socket (tube) you can see the nail hole for fixing the (now missing) tiller. A bit further to the right, there is the touch hole on the right hand side.
As the later-added barrel loops and the hole in the hook indicate, it was alterated for a full stock during its working life, most probably in the 1520's, the Peasants' Wars. It must also have been then that a dove-tailed igniting pan was attached to the touch hole (now missing); the dovetail is still visible.

Best,
Michael

[Spiridonov]

http://www.handgonne.com/gonne_1a.html
Michael, I think that 14 is the wrong date. What do You think about this barrel? It dont't looks like european at all

[Matchlock]

It's of Chinese origin and probably 18th c., that's why it doesn't look European. There are many of these around on the market.

Best,
Michael