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			absolutely unique barrel (I have never seen this type before) 
		
		
		
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   .- Last edited by fernando; 3rd December 2011 at 07:29 PM.  | 
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			Hi Alexander, 
		
		
		
			The shape of this mid-15th c. tiller barrel without showing an accentuated, reinforced breech is highy unusual indeed. There is another, similar though preserved in the famous Princely collection at Konopiste Castle, Czechia: tiller stock missing, barrel ca. 1450, length 49.5 mm, cal. 39 mm! Best, Michael  | 
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			Thank You for sharing! Have it chamber or not?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			I marked the touchhole which markes the beginning of the breech (powder chamber); behind it is the tiller socket (now empty). 
		
		
		
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 http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...light=tapestry Last edited by Spiridonov; 3rd December 2011 at 09:11 PM.  | 
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			[QUOTE=Spiridonov]I mean chamber tapering inside of barrel (Like on Tannenberg handgonne). [/QUOTE. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			I think this should be actually called a bore narrowing behind a bell-mouthed or widened muzzle. I have often found this with a lot of 15th c. barrels when exactly measured, e.g. with my own famous haquebut barrel dated 1481, which you yourself handled in my collection. I think it was just an easy method to simplify loading the gun, especially with any kind of shot. Please ref.: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ich+dated+1481 Anyway, youre doubtlessly right concering the unusually thinness at the bronze muzzle walls - that's really astounding, especially for bronze! Seems to have worked in a way, though ...   Best, Michael Last edited by Matchlock; 4th December 2011 at 03:00 AM.  | 
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