KERIS BLADE

PenangsangII · 3rd November 2011, 03:19 AM

Thank you Alan.

from the historical perspective, many keraton empu started off as an apprentice / panjak of the empu who served in the kraton. Legends however, mention that best empu could be from ndheso / humble working place, such as the case of Empu Gandring, Jaka Sura, Sombro and many more. It is also a fact, some kraton empus also relinguished their kraton association and became ascetic in the rural area, Mpu umyang being the case here.

Does this mean, those originally from Kraton, when they left the service and became empu ndheso, they no longer produce keris of kraton's quatlity and pakem?

A. G. Maisey · 3rd November 2011, 04:32 AM

Penangsang, in this life there is one thing that is almost universally true:-

you mostly get what you pay for.

When a man is working under the aegis of a karaton, or even a lord of lower degree, his objective would have been to produce the very best he was capable of, and he was maintained at a level that permitted this.

Now, if a person is sufficiently relaxed to leave behind the security of life under the patronage of a lord, then he needs to make his own way, and his time assumes a different value.

I think that we can assume that if this man was working for a bag of rice, the keris would be worth a bag of rice, on the other hand, if he was working for a brace of kerbau, the keris value would correspond to this.

3rd November 2011, 04:32 AM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,048	Penangsang, in this life there is one thing that is almost universally true:- you mostly get what you pay for. When a man is working under the aegis of a karaton, or even a lord of lower degree, his objective would have been to produce the very best he was capable of, and he was maintained at a level that permitted this. Now, if a person is sufficiently relaxed to leave behind the security of life under the patronage of a lord, then he needs to make his own way, and his time assumes a different value. I think that we can assume that if this man was working for a bag of rice, the keris would be worth a bag of rice, on the other hand, if he was working for a brace of kerbau, the keris value would correspond to this. Last edited by A. G. Maisey; 3rd November 2011 at 06:19 AM.

3rd November 2011, 03:19 AM	#1
PenangsangII Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 401	Thank you Alan. from the historical perspective, many keraton empu started off as an apprentice / panjak of the empu who served in the kraton. Legends however, mention that best empu could be from ndheso / humble working place, such as the case of Empu Gandring, Jaka Sura, Sombro and many more. It is also a fact, some kraton empus also relinguished their kraton association and became ascetic in the rural area, Mpu umyang being the case here. Does this mean, those originally from Kraton, when they left the service and became empu ndheso, they no longer produce keris of kraton's quatlity and pakem?