Any info on this kind of Sumatran knife?

[KuKulzA28]

Cool, thanks for all the information and discussion so far guys, I appreciate it.

So the fullered blade and sheath style suggest Sumatra... I am always learning

[Sajen]

Here is another dagger with the same general blade shape, pommel from albino horn but sadly without scabbard, it's 25,5 cm long (10.2").

[kai]

Hello Detlef,

Here is another dagger with the same general blade shape, pommel from albino horn but sadly without scabbard, it's 25,5 cm long (10.2").

Congrats and thanks for sharing!

Looks like a nice knife with good age, probably antique. Let me know if you ever get bored with it...

Incidentally, I obtained a twin of Rick's knife this year and also have an antique version coming in (shown below). The scabbard seems to be quite characteristic; blades and hilts exhibit some variability though.

Without an extant scabbard and yet another blade and hilt styles, your knife may or may not be closely related to the other examples. I hope some more similar Sumatran knifes will show up to close the gaps; I feel we've barely started to scratch the surface considering the diversity of Sumatran piso (and daggers in general)...

Regards,
Kai

[kai]

BTW, here's another piece that sold a while ago: This time with silver-clad hilt; blade and throat of scabbard in yet another variant though!

Regards,
Kai

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by kai

Looks like a nice knife with good age, probably antique. Let me know if you ever get bored with it...

Hello Kai,

Will remember you you when I am boring it.

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Incidentally, I obtained a twin of Rick's knife this year and also have an antique version coming in (shown below). The scabbard seems to be quite characteristic; blades and hilts exhibit some variability though.

The blade look more like a sewar/siwar blade and not like the one from Rick's knife!?

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Without an extant scabbard and yet another blade and hilt styles, your knife may or may not be closely related to the other examples.

The blade from my example is much more similar to Rick's example as your one IMVHO. Only the curve of the tip is slightly different.

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I hope some more similar Sumatran knifes will show up to close the gaps; I feel we've barely started to scratch the surface considering the diversity of Sumatran piso (and daggers in general)...

Hope and feel the same!

[Sajen]

[kai]

Hello Detlef,

The blade look more like a sewar/siwar blade and not like the one from Rick's knife!?

In the antique example shown, only the scabbard suggests a close relationship.

The other one I was talking about (not shown though) really is a twin of Rick's knife and also of later origin (post-WW2).

The blade from my example is much more similar to Rick's example as your one IMVHO. Only the curve of the tip is slightly different.

The fullers in your blade are also quite different. I may or may not be closely related - with the current limited data I won't be able to present a defendable argument.

Regards,
Kai

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by kai

The fullers in your blade are also quite different. I may or may not be closely related - with the current limited data I won't be able to present a defendable argument.

Hello Kai,

yes, the fullers are a little bit different and I agree that we need more data, hopefully others will show their examples (when they have) at this place also.

Best regards,
Detlef