Good old Phil.sword scabbard; 4 what type??

Battara · 30th October 2011, 06:41 PM

I was thinking the same thing.

Indianajones · 31st October 2011, 01:14 PM

Hi, thanks for the replies so far; Visayan?! It would not be for a 'tenegre'? That would be a kind of blade that would fit in, though havent found a tenegre with a similar sheath myself yet.
Hopefully someone is able to pin it down bit more specificly.

Will try to look up n scan that pic in RMV booklet.

Royston · 31st October 2011, 05:01 PM

Indianajones

It looks as though your sheath is missing parts. If you take all of the decoration off this sheath I do not think it would be that much different.

Regards
Roy

Indianajones · 31st October 2011, 06:47 PM

Hi Roy, hmmm interesting. I just had again a good look at the sheath for traces of missing parts but I really see any traces of missing pieces. Also no discoloration -as is just under the leather topcover on reverse; see pic 3- on top or bottom as sign.

I have looked up quite some tenegre's but most of them have metal or horn fittings around the wood and a metal end with studs. But I have learned from this forum that tenegre's can origin from diferent regions?!?

I did find this pic of a sword from Robert Coleman from an old thread which also looks quite like my scabbard, but still a disturbing(?) difference.

Thanks

Lew · 31st October 2011, 07:41 PM

Found this one that I use to have

VANDOO · 31st October 2011, 10:34 PM

YOUR SCABBARD WOULD BE FOR A WORK GRADE CHOPPER, NOT AS MUCH WORK GOES INTO THEM SO HORN FITTINGS, EXPENSIVE WOOD AND FANCY CARVINGS ARE NOT THE NORM. VISIAN BECAUSE OF THE LEATHER SLEAVE LIKELY TENEGRE FORM BLADE WITHOUT A FANCY MONSTER HEAD, BUT WITHOUT THE BLADE

SO BASICALLY A VISIAN PRANG SCABBARD WOULD BE A SAFE GUESS UNTIL A EXACT DUPLICATE SHOWS UP.

I SUPPOSE YOU COULD TAKE IT APART TO SEE THE BLADE SHAPE BETTER BUT THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO STICH IT UP AGAIN UNLESS THE BANDS SLIDE OFF.

Indianajones · 5th November 2011, 11:35 AM

Hello, this is the Phil./malay sword I meant >see pic below< with a similar scabbard as mine, unfortunately they noted just one size. Anybody here has such a sword with scabbard and can share the measurements of it??
The pic in the book is just a bit too far off to be sure its the same and -although my scabbard looks pretty much the same- mine may not be wide enough.

Any other help/suggestions pls??!!?
Thanks in advance and for so far!

31st October 2011, 05:01 PM	#3
Royston Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Poole England Posts: 443	Indianajones It looks as though your sheath is missing parts. If you take all of the decoration off this sheath I do not think it would be that much different. Regards Roy Attached Images

31st October 2011, 06:47 PM	#4
Indianajones Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 180	Hi Roy, hmmm interesting. I just had again a good look at the sheath for traces of missing parts but I really see any traces of missing pieces. Also no discoloration -as is just under the leather topcover on reverse; see pic 3- on top or bottom as sign. I have looked up quite some tenegre's but most of them have metal or horn fittings around the wood and a metal end with studs. But I have learned from this forum that tenegre's can origin from diferent regions?!? I did find this pic of a sword from Robert Coleman from an old thread which also looks quite like my scabbard, but still a disturbing(?) difference. Thanks Attached Images Last edited by Indianajones; 31st October 2011 at 07:19 PM.

31st October 2011, 07:41 PM	#5
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Found this one that I use to have Attached Images

5th November 2011, 11:35 AM	#7
Indianajones Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 180	Hello, this is the Phil./malay sword I meant >see pic below< with a similar scabbard as mine, unfortunately they noted just one size. Anybody here has such a sword with scabbard and can share the measurements of it?? The pic in the book is just a bit too far off to be sure its the same and -although my scabbard looks pretty much the same- mine may not be wide enough. Any other help/suggestions pls??!!? Thanks in advance and for so far! Attached Images

30th October 2011, 06:41 PM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,282	I was thinking the same thing.

31st October 2011, 01:14 PM	#2
Indianajones Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 180	Hi, thanks for the replies so far; Visayan?! It would not be for a 'tenegre'? That would be a kind of blade that would fit in, though havent found a tenegre with a similar sheath myself yet. Hopefully someone is able to pin it down bit more specificly. Will try to look up n scan that pic in RMV booklet.

31st October 2011, 10:34 PM	#6
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	YOUR SCABBARD WOULD BE FOR A WORK GRADE CHOPPER, NOT AS MUCH WORK GOES INTO THEM SO HORN FITTINGS, EXPENSIVE WOOD AND FANCY CARVINGS ARE NOT THE NORM. VISIAN BECAUSE OF THE LEATHER SLEAVE LIKELY TENEGRE FORM BLADE WITHOUT A FANCY MONSTER HEAD, BUT WITHOUT THE BLADE SO BASICALLY A VISIAN PRANG SCABBARD WOULD BE A SAFE GUESS UNTIL A EXACT DUPLICATE SHOWS UP. I SUPPOSE YOU COULD TAKE IT APART TO SEE THE BLADE SHAPE BETTER BUT THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO STICH IT UP AGAIN UNLESS THE BANDS SLIDE OFF.