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Janggelan leaves (mesona palustris), could live almost everywhere in villages in Java, mostly in Magetan, Ponorogo and Pacitan in East Java. People here, they are used to plant this plantations deliberately, sun-dry the janggelan leaves, then sell them to certain buyers – to be used as raw material to make “cincau hitam” (black jelly) which have special aroma and taste, to be laid out on the dishes with natural “es buah” (fruit cocktail drink).
Why did javanese keris people create “janggelan hilts”? That’s still a question. The nature of janggelan hilts in reality, usually they are simple ornamented, and reflected as a simple hilt, for simple pusakas such as old betok, sombro betok etc... Many of them are made and carved on bones, but some are carved on elephant’s ivory too... GANJAWULUNG |
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Hello Jimmy, thank you for this very intersting and informative explanation. I have eat already cincau hitam but don't know what is was made from. ![]() Regards, Detlef |
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Here you can see by the pesi holes that it is made from an animal tooth.
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Sharing my only example.
I just realized that I had been complaining for a long time that I don't have an old Madurese keris when I had this for more than a few years... and its quite nice, IMHO. ![]() |
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indeed a nice hilt. ![]() Regards, Detlef |
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I think its marine ivory. The shape of the hilt follows the natural form of the tusk.
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Some others (horn and ivory)
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Few other specimens with various designs (ivory & deer horn).
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Sorry for the delay in joining this thread; I've had net problems.
Herewith a few more. I'm not exactly sure where this hilt form stops and starts, I have a few more that are similar, but I feel outside the parameters for this form. |
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Alam Shah, I have noted two different head forms in this type of hilt:- a humanoid head, and a kakatua head. Sometimes when there is no distinct head the suggested form seems to be more kakatua than human.I would theorise that the human form of head is ancestral, and the kakatua associated with the world above.
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Maybe the reason is that the material has something hidden which needs to be revealed.
I've had this reason given to me a number of times by a number carvers. So --- just maybe, at some unknown time in the past, a carver with imagination had the tip of a horn, and asked himself what he could create from it. When we are dealing with art forms from a time and place that differs from our own, we need to be able to think in a way that also differs from 21st. century rational. As 21st century rational thinkers we would identify the need, thus reason, and seek the material. People who think differently could have the material, and then seek the use, thus need, which provides reason. |
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Thank you for sharing, some nice examples. Here a few more in a group picture from a friend collector. |
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Seems we've diversified a bit, so I'm putting these up too. I do not regard these hilts as janggalan style. To me they are clearly kakatua.
But as I've said:- where does one type stop and another start? |
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