Balinese Keris Holders

GIO · 18th October 2011, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ganjawulung

Another mystery tour, this time to Amsterdam. An old and beautiful -- if not the most -- keris holder from the collection of Tropen Museum, Amsterdam. Depicted who?

Great sculpture indeed ! I too think it depicts Hanuman, but am asking myself: where the keris has to be inserted ?

GIO · 18th October 2011, 07:50 PM

Here is one of my keris holders: Hanuman again !
I think it is a rather recent manufacture, now it has a big crack in the base.
Forget the keris. It has nothing to do with Bali.

asomotif · 18th October 2011, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GIO

Here is one of my keris holders: Hanuman again !

Nice one, but is this Hanuman ? does he have a tail for starters ?

Best regards,
Willem

ganjawulung · 19th October 2011, 05:30 AM

Hanuman, or Anoman, always has white fur, Another human-ape of Ramayana epic, is Anila with violet fur, and Anggada with red fur. In Ramayana, Anoman is the son of Dewi Anjani (name of a goddess), and Batara Guru (the highest god in wayang world). Anila is the son of Batara Narada (another god in wayang), and Anggada is the son of Sugriwa (king of Apes in Gua Kiskenda) with Dewi Tara (a goddess)...

GIO · 19th October 2011, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by asomotif

Nice one, but is this Hanuman ? does he have a tail for starters ?

Best regards,
Willem

There is a sort of tail, but similar to a piece of cloth. There is also a keris inserted in the belt.

klewang · 19th October 2011, 10:52 AM

I think Gio's kerisholder might be Twalen, the Balinese version of Semar.
I know he is mentioned in a book on Semar by Ruud Greve, can't find it right know unfortunately.

David · 19th October 2011, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by klewang

I think Gio's kerisholder might be Twalen, the Balinese version of Semar.
I know he is mentioned in a book on Semar by Ruud Greve, can't find it right know unfortunately.

I think this is a likely attribution. He does seem to have the appropriate widely spaced 2 teeth and general head shape.

Sajen · 19th October 2011, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by David

I think this is a likely attribution. He does seem to have the appropriate widely spaced 2 teeth and general head shape.

Yes, agree most probable Twalen! Here pictures from my old Twalen figure - no keris holder but a nice old carving.

Regards,

Detlef

18th October 2011, 07:50 PM	#2
GIO Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 329	Here is one of my keris holders: Hanuman again ! I think it is a rather recent manufacture, now it has a big crack in the base. Forget the keris. It has nothing to do with Bali. Attached Images

19th October 2011, 10:52 AM	#6
klewang Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 23	Twalen I think Gio's kerisholder might be Twalen, the Balinese version of Semar. I know he is mentioned in a book on Semar by Ruud Greve, can't find it right know unfortunately.

19th October 2011, 05:30 AM	#4
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Hanuman, or Anoman, always has white fur, Another human-ape of Ramayana epic, is Anila with violet fur, and Anggada with red fur. In Ramayana, Anoman is the son of Dewi Anjani (name of a goddess), and Batara Guru (the highest god in wayang world). Anila is the son of Batara Narada (another god in wayang), and Anggada is the son of Sugriwa (king of Apes in Gua Kiskenda) with Dewi Tara (a goddess)...