Spanish Gun Lock for ID

[Matchlock]

Hi Rick,

I confirm your dating of the gun although the scrolled trigger and the curved lower outline of the lock seem to suggest a date of the late 1st half of the 18th c.

I referred to all my gunmakers names sources but cannot see a chance to identify this special signature without taking off the frizzen spring.

It is not as unusual as you may assume to find lock signatures partially covered by functional parts as the lock plate was signed before the assembling process.

Best,
Michael

[rickystl]

Hi Michael. Thanks for your response. OK. Yes, maybe last half of the 18th Century. I'll get him to photo the entire gun. And, I'll see if he can remouve the frizzen spring. OR, better yet, send the gun to me and I'll remove it Rick.

[Fernando K]

Hola, Rick

La llave (lock) es probablemente una llave (lock) construída en Italia, con influencia de la llave (lock) "a la Romana" (roman lock) y de la llave (lock) de chispa clásica (flntlock). Sería lo que los españoles llamaban " a las 3 modas".

De llave (cock) "a la romana" toma la disposición del muelle del rastrillo (frizzen), que está situado delante del resorte Hola, Rick

La llave (lock) es probablemente una llave (lock) construída en Italia, con influencia de la llave (lock) "a la Romana" (roman lock) y de la llave (lock) de chispa clásica (flntlock). Sería mayor y no queda oculto por la brida (bridge) de la cazoleta (pan) que en el miguele (miquelet) clásico es postizo.

De la llave de chispa (flintlock) toma la brida ( bridge) del rastrillo (frizzen) que es fijada a la cazoleta (pan) y no postiza: y la mandíbula superior, que no tiene apendice que se introduce en la mandibula inferior o en el cuerpo del gatillo (cock), sino que corre en la su columna.

El método de disparo es el del miquelete clásico.

LAVIN , en su apendice, pagina 239, trae la tarifa fijada para una llave (cock) "a las 3 modas": "Plantilla con el estribillo en la cazoleta"

También algunos armeros españoles fabricaron esta llave.

Afectuosamente. Fernando


Hello, Rick

The Key (lock) is probably a key (lock), built in Italy, influenced by the key (lock) "to La Romana" (Roman lock) and key (lock) classic spark (flntlock). It would be what the Spanish called "fashion at 3."

Key (cock) "to the Roman" takes the provision of spring rake (frizzes), which is located opposite the spring Hello, Rick

The Key (lock) is probably a key (lock), built in Italy, influenced by the key (lock) "to La Romana" (Roman lock) and key (lock) classic spark (flntlock). Would be greater and is not hidden by the flange (bridge) of the bowl (pan) in the Michael (Miquelet) classic is fake.

From flintlock (flintlock) takes the clamp (bridge) the rake (frizzes) which is fixed to the pan (bread) and not fake, and the upper jaw, which has no appendix that is inserted into the lower jaw or the body of the trigger (cock), but runs in his column.

The shooting method is the classic Miquelet.

Lavin, in his appendix, page 239, bringing the tariff set for a key (cock) "at 3 fashion": "Talk with the chorus in the bowl"

Also some Spanish gunsmiths produced the key.

Sincerely. Fernando

[fernando]

I have contacted a Spanish specialist.
His impressions coincide a lot with those of Fernando K in that, this lock may have been made in Italy.
Even the way the mark is engraved on the plate doesn't look like a Spanish work, neither its initials sound Spanish.
Although the mechanism complex looks interesting, the finishing reminds the 'easy' way of a (Spanish) Colonial example.
Fernando K is more precise in detailing this lock system ... pass the rough translation. The system called 'a las tres modas' (three fashions) is a fusion of 'a la Romana', classic flintlock and Miquelete, as this example appears to be.

[Fernando K]

Hello, all

Sorry by the "rough translation", but I do not spoke english. I need the translator.....

Sincerely, Fernando K