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Bill · 27th July 2005, 04:02 PM

Here's a old postcard marked "Weapons Borongs,Krisses and Campalan-554" in the background is what appears to be old (Chinese?) vases in some sort of shop. 4th one down is what Cato describes as 18thC. Sorry I couldn't get a better pic.

Spunjer · 27th July 2005, 08:55 PM

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Spunger, Agree that the straight gangya line means a really old blade; for the few really old blades I have the gangya is very narrow (this one is thick) & the file work is minimal on the guard side, as well, fully defined curves rather than waves. My guess is that the multi-waves didn't start untill late 18thC/early 19thC.

hi bill; thanks for that tidbit.
when you wrote "...its horn because of the defined edges on it", could you please elaborate on that one? reason being is, i have this one sword and i'm having a hard time determining whether its some type of wood or carabao horn, although the hand guard i'm pretty sure is carabao horn.

that postcard's pretty cool. wow, can't imagine how i would react if i walk in on an antique store like that. prolly like a cat stumbling on a catnip, lol. must be an antique shop in manila before wwII. funny thing is, those chinese vases are still popular in the antique shops over there...

Battara · 27th July 2005, 11:42 PM

In one of the questions posed by others, the seller said that the pommel was made of horn. I agree with the question of the piece in the waves and straight across ganga separation line (say that 5 times fast

) - either the blade is a fake - er - later with intent to fool, or it is an exception to the rule found in Cato's book. Horrible pictures.

One of our brethern was bidding on this puppy and it was at 81.00, and then was ended by the seller. Wonder why?

VANDOO · 28th July 2005, 12:50 AM

I AM ALWAYS SUSPECIOUS OF BAD PICTURES AND HIGH WORDS SUCH AS ROYAL, DATU, ANCIENT, ECT, WITH NO PROVENANCE OR GARANTEES. IT DOSEN'T HELP WHEN THE SELLER ENDS THE AUCTION EARLY WHEN IT SEEMS TO BE DOING WELL. THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT MORE OF THE EARLY ENDING AUCTION DEAL LATELY. IT WAS A INTERESTING ITEM THOUGH FROM WHAT LITTLE I COULD SEE.

kai · 28th July 2005, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by VANDOO

I AM ALWAYS SUSPECIOUS OF BAD PICTURES AND HIGH WORDS SUCH AS ROYAL, DATU, ANCIENT, ECT, WITH NO PROVENANCE OR GARANTEES.

There seems to be some sort of provenance - it comes with a collection tag but the seller hasn't disclosed whom this "early century South Seas collection" belonged to... Caveat emptor, as usual.

27th July 2005, 04:02 PM	#1
Bill Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago area Posts: 327	Here's a old postcard marked "Weapons Borongs,Krisses and Campalan-554" in the background is what appears to be old (Chinese?) vases in some sort of shop. 4th one down is what Cato describes as 18thC. Sorry I couldn't get a better pic. Attached Images

27th July 2005, 11:42 PM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	In one of the questions posed by others, the seller said that the pommel was made of horn. I agree with the question of the piece in the waves and straight across ganga separation line (say that 5 times fast ) - either the blade is a fake - er - later with intent to fool, or it is an exception to the rule found in Cato's book. Horrible pictures. One of our brethern was bidding on this puppy and it was at 81.00, and then was ended by the seller. Wonder why?

28th July 2005, 12:50 AM	#4
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I AM ALWAYS SUSPECIOUS OF BAD PICTURES AND HIGH WORDS SUCH AS ROYAL, DATU, ANCIENT, ECT, WITH NO PROVENANCE OR GARANTEES. IT DOSEN'T HELP WHEN THE SELLER ENDS THE AUCTION EARLY WHEN IT SEEMS TO BE DOING WELL. THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT MORE OF THE EARLY ENDING AUCTION DEAL LATELY. IT WAS A INTERESTING ITEM THOUGH FROM WHAT LITTLE I COULD SEE.