Indonesian ? spear for I.D. and comment

[asomotif]

Here are 2 examples from the "Wereldmuseum" collection described as Sulawesi.
Unfortunately they have only one picture of the objects. I wonder what type of blade the one with the silver ferrule would have

[asomotif]

Ps. 2 examples next to each other.

BTW, Maurice. This is not to undermine your Borneo theory. Borneo is possible.
But especially this silver work can be found throughout the Archipelago.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by asomotif

Ps. 2 examples next to each other.

BTW, Maurice. This is not to undermine your Borneo theory. Borneo is possible.
But especially this silver work can be found throughout the Archipelago.

Hi Willem,

well done research. The affinity of the ferrules is amazing.

Regards,

Detlef

[Maurice]

Originally Posted by asomotif

Ps. 2 examples next to each other.

BTW, Maurice. This is not to undermine your Borneo theory. Borneo is possible.
But especially this silver work can be found throughout the Archipelago.

Yes almost identical:-)
But as I said before it isn't dajak!
Also I've seen lances with provenance from Borneo, with silver ferrules ornamented like these....
But what's make me saying that Collin's lance could be Borneo is because of the iron blade and the wooden shaft.
I've seen Borneo spears with identical carved circles in the wooden shaft as Colin's.....

I like these kind of puzzles....

Maurice

[asomotif]

I recently bought a borneo spear.

Slightly different metal decoration and unfortunately not silver.
The spearhead is layered forging. probably imported from Java.

The shaft is dark hard wood of the quality we see in blowpipes.
It has a simple decoration on the shaft.

Nice for comparrison.

Best regards,
Willem

[Battara]

I know that the blade is Javanese, but I also thought the brass sleeve was also Javanese style as well?

Nice piece in any case........

[Maurice]

Nice spear Willem.

Any provenance?

[asomotif]

Originally Posted by Maurice

Nice spear Willem.
Any provenance?

Hi Maurice,

Old German collection, but not more specific than that.
It came with 2 others.

[asomotif]

Originally Posted by Battara

I know that the blade is Javanese, but I also thought the brass sleeve was also Javanese style as well?
Nice piece in any case........

The sleeve is dirty but underneath the dirt it is sort of silver colour. I think it is a nickle alloy.

I have seen this type of sleeve decoration on Javanese, Sumatran and Borneo spears.
In RMV, Leiden I found an example that appears to be from Sulawesi.(see earlier in this thread)
So I can not pin-point it to a specific Island or region.
Maybe they where traded. maybe the silver craftsmen where scattered over te Islands coastal regions.

Best regards,
Willem