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19th May 2011, 07:58 PM
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Hi Alexander, This type of barrel is of basic latest Gothic form and can be generally attributed to the 'late 15th c.', which means ca. 1480-90. Admittedly it is rather unusual to be found as late as the early 16th c. like in the case of Pögl's haquebuts but Pögl by then was already an old man and worked together with his son, so he seems to have continued the oldfashioned style. In other words: wouldn't we know Pögl's mark and working life dates, I too would assign his haquebuts to 'ca. 1480-90'.  Best, Michael |
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19th May 2011, 09:17 PM
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Michael, I am grateful to you. I should have to call You my teacher because a lot of my knowledges about early firearms was given to me by You
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20th May 2011, 06:29 PM
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Spasiba, Alexander,
Go on working and studying like this and you soon will surpass your teacher!   Best, Michael |
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27th November 2011, 09:54 PM
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The beautiful bronze handgonne from Göteborg
http://carlotta.gotlib.goteborg.se/p...bjMasidn=35125 I think it late 15 century (the front side of the muzzle let us to suggest it) Last edited by Spiridonov; 27th November 2011 at 10:08 PM. |
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28th November 2011, 06:51 PM
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Hi Alexander the Great
 ,Another great and astonishing find, thank you very much for sharing! I think your dating is exactly right, and post the photoshopped (though low-rez) pics. Thanks again, Michael |
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28th November 2011, 07:45 PM
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It seems that hook has been broken. Look at the Berns chronics. We can see the muzzle neb of absoulutly similar shape.
Michael, i remember that You discussed barrel that looks like this cut in half http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...2091&highlight But I think that it is not early 15 century. I guess it much later By the way this museum is not so far from Saint-Petersberg. So, It is possibly that I will visit this museum to make some photos of this handgonne |
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28th November 2011, 08:21 PM
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 ) I have to admit you were right: that curious double barrel haquebut actually should be dated 'late 15th c.' as well!Thank you so much again, and of course additional images would be great if you could take them! And as to the hook, I of course agree it was either cut of broken off. Best, Michael |
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