Bronze Dagger

Rick · 13th July 2005, 12:28 AM

How did you come to purchase this piece .
Friend , ebay , estate sale , antique store , other ?

erlikhan · 13th July 2005, 09:06 AM

Battara, thats very interesting. i knew an artificial,too fresh kind of green patina is given by chemicals, but never thought that it was possible to give better,more natural looking patina under soil in a short time. do u have any picture of such "naturally" patinated fakes? do they look like real bronze age items after the process? how long time does that kind of patination take?
regards

Battara · 13th July 2005, 10:53 PM

It all depends on the soil conditions. Now, under strong magnification, it will be easier to see differences in natural and faked patinas. I would hesitate to give too many details because I don't have the pieces nor pictures with me, and second.....I know (as we on this forum have discussed in earlier posts) there are fakers that peruse this forum to improve their "craft".

I'll just say that I have lost interest in Luristan pieces, for example, because I have seen really good fakes where I could scarcely tell the difference in the green and brown patinas present (probably gave away too much information right there

).

13th July 2005, 12:28 AM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	45 How did you come to purchase this piece . Friend , ebay , estate sale , antique store , other ?

13th July 2005, 09:06 AM	#2
erlikhan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Istanbul Posts: 452	Battara, thats very interesting. i knew an artificial,too fresh kind of green patina is given by chemicals, but never thought that it was possible to give better,more natural looking patina under soil in a short time. do u have any picture of such "naturally" patinated fakes? do they look like real bronze age items after the process? how long time does that kind of patination take? regards Last edited by erlikhan; 13th July 2005 at 11:21 AM.

13th July 2005, 10:53 PM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	It all depends on the soil conditions. Now, under strong magnification, it will be easier to see differences in natural and faked patinas. I would hesitate to give too many details because I don't have the pieces nor pictures with me, and second.....I know (as we on this forum have discussed in earlier posts) there are fakers that peruse this forum to improve their "craft". I'll just say that I have lost interest in Luristan pieces, for example, because I have seen really good fakes where I could scarcely tell the difference in the green and brown patinas present (probably gave away too much information right there ).