Iron ramrod in xv century

Spiridonov · 14th March 2011, 10:44 PM

unfortunately, I have not higher resolution version. This picture found one good man from russian historic forum. He has not highres too

But I still find it

fernando · 15th March 2011, 12:23 AM

Ha, the encountering of two geniuses

Matchlock · 15th March 2011, 01:29 AM

Exactly, 'Nando,

Though you of course are the third in our alliance, amigo

- just hope you would come on in more often on these subjects!

We really feel sorta lost here, no kidding.

Best,
Michl

Matchlock · 15th March 2011, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiridonov

unfortunately, I have not higher resolution version. This picture found one good man from russian historic forum. He has not highres too

But I still find it

If anyone does, Alexander, you will!

And I look forward to that day.

m

Matchlock · 15th March 2011, 02:03 AM

Here is a full view and a close-up of the South Tyrolian fresco Alexander posted above.

It is, as I wrote in an earlier thread, preserved on the wall of a 15th c. guardroom of the fortress Schloss Issogne, Aosta Valley, and can be dated closely to ca. 1495.

Please note the hooked iron ramrod seen in front of the ramrod channel of the lower Landsknecht arquebus, which I had hitherto overlooked - my old eyes begin to lose their light ...

However, also note the cylindrical tubular iron finial (Setzerkopf) of the - most certainly - wooden ramrod shoved into the stock of the uppper arquebus - obviously the more modern loading tool!

We can but speculate why the wooden ramrod prevailed with both 'military' and sporting guns until the first half of the eighteenth century ...

Best,
Michael

15th March 2011, 02:03 AM	#5
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Here is a full view and a close-up of the South Tyrolian fresco Alexander posted above. It is, as I wrote in an earlier thread, preserved on the wall of a 15th c. guardroom of the fortress Schloss Issogne, Aosta Valley, and can be dated closely to ca. 1495. Please note the hooked iron ramrod seen in front of the ramrod channel of the lower Landsknecht arquebus, which I had hitherto overlooked - my old eyes begin to lose their light ... However, also note the cylindrical tubular iron finial (Setzerkopf) of the - most certainly - wooden ramrod shoved into the stock of the uppper arquebus - obviously the more modern loading tool! We can but speculate why the wooden ramrod prevailed with both 'military' and sporting guns until the first half of the eighteenth century ... Best, Michael Attached Images Last edited by Matchlock; 15th March 2011 at 03:24 AM.

14th March 2011, 10:44 PM	#1
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	unfortunately, I have not higher resolution version. This picture found one good man from russian historic forum. He has not highres too But I still find it

15th March 2011, 12:23 AM	#2
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Ha, the encountering of two geniuses

15th March 2011, 01:29 AM	#3
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Exactly, 'Nando, Though you of course are the third in our alliance, amigo - just hope you would come on in more often on these subjects! We really feel sorta lost here, no kidding. Best, Michl