Afghan Peshkabz

Aurangzeb · 2nd July 2005, 04:30 PM

Hi Ian!

I only came to my conclusion off of the auction told me. Maybe someone on the forum chould clairify for me. Thanks for telling me where Bactira was thats been bugging me.

RobT · 4th July 2005, 06:06 AM

Ian,
I believe the pesh kabz has a fatter grip and as a consequence the hooked pommel is not as pronounced. Stone on pg 494 says pesh kabz means foregrip and shows both straight and recurved pesh kabz blades. I have never seen a recurved choora blade. Stone (pg 338) calls the straight pesh kabz blade a karud. From what I have in my collection, the karud blades vary from looking very much like choora blades to looking like minature Khyber knife blades. I also have a choora hilted piece with a minature Khyber knife style blade. Given this, I wonder if it isn't the hilt that defines the type.
Sincerely,
RobT

Ian · 4th July 2005, 12:16 PM

Thanks Rob.

That makes sense. I have not heard the distinction based on the hilt before -- wonder if others have the same interpretation.

Ian.

Aurangzeb · 5th July 2005, 03:11 AM

Hi all!

After hearing this I whould say that sounds most likely. I never looked at the grip as the defining point before. Instead I spent hours reading and re-reading books and text on te internet as well as studing pictures until 11:00 at night with a head ache!

( my eye docter says I should cut back on my reading! ). Thanks for all the help.

Jens Nordlunde · 5th July 2005, 09:33 PM

What would you call this one?

Lew · 5th July 2005, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jens Nordlunde

What would you call this one?

I would call it very perdy(pretty)

Maybe a khanjar?

Lew

Aurangzeb · 6th July 2005, 01:07 AM

Hi Jens!

Very nice, I am filled with envy!

I might be wrong but this looks to be a khanjarli dagger from India or some sort of khanjar. Nice gold work on it, is it a wootz blade? Hopefully this chould be of some help.

Maah as-salaama!
(good-bye in arabic)

4th July 2005, 06:06 AM	#2
RobT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 563	Choora vs Pesh Kabz Ian, I believe the pesh kabz has a fatter grip and as a consequence the hooked pommel is not as pronounced. Stone on pg 494 says pesh kabz means foregrip and shows both straight and recurved pesh kabz blades. I have never seen a recurved choora blade. Stone (pg 338) calls the straight pesh kabz blade a karud. From what I have in my collection, the karud blades vary from looking very much like choora blades to looking like minature Khyber knife blades. I also have a choora hilted piece with a minature Khyber knife style blade. Given this, I wonder if it isn't the hilt that defines the type. Sincerely, RobT

5th July 2005, 09:33 PM	#5
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	What would you call this one? Attached Images

2nd July 2005, 04:30 PM	#1
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Hi Ian! I only came to my conclusion off of the auction told me. Maybe someone on the forum chould clairify for me. Thanks for telling me where Bactira was thats been bugging me.

4th July 2005, 12:16 PM	#3
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,453	Thanks Rob. That makes sense. I have not heard the distinction based on the hilt before -- wonder if others have the same interpretation. Ian.

5th July 2005, 03:11 AM	#4
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Hi all! After hearing this I whould say that sounds most likely. I never looked at the grip as the defining point before. Instead I spent hours reading and re-reading books and text on te internet as well as studing pictures until 11:00 at night with a head ache! ( my eye docter says I should cut back on my reading! ). Thanks for all the help.

6th July 2005, 01:07 AM	#7
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Hi Jens! Very nice, I am filled with envy! I might be wrong but this looks to be a khanjarli dagger from India or some sort of khanjar. Nice gold work on it, is it a wootz blade? Hopefully this chould be of some help. Maah as-salaama! (good-bye in arabic)