Philippines Map 1899 - Ethnic Territories

[Spunjer]

actually, on the first edition of the map, it WAS marked. it was later removed so it wouldn't cause any mass hysteria.
Ye Original Map

[laEspadaAncha]

Originally Posted by Spunjer

actually, on the first edition of the map, it WAS marked. it was later removed so it wouldn't cause any mass hysteria.
Ye Original Map

LoL... Someone had to give props where props were due... too funny.


Re: the map, it seems to resonate with any/every anthro class (read: both) I took. In that one static image, you can almost envision the waves of migration of different peoples over millennia, with each successive "invader" more often than not pushing the previously settled people further from the coast.

At a glance, based on the map it would appear as if the (Austronesian?) Igorot were the original inhabitants, followed by Negrito migrations (from PNG or Melanesia?), followed by the comparably "recent" migrations from elsewhere in SE Asia. Is this even remotely accurate?

[migueldiaz]

Originally Posted by laEspadaAncha

At a glance, based on the map it would appear as if the (Austronesian?) Igorot were the original inhabitants, followed by Negrito migrations (from PNG or Melanesia?), followed by the comparably "recent" migrations from elsewhere in SE Asia. Is this even remotely accurate

hello. the supposed migration path is per attached. linguistics and genetics heavily support this theory as far as i know. here's an excellent short video on the subject.

[Battara]

Good example of linguistics is the word "mata". In Hawaii and as far away as Easter Island, it means "eye". In Tagalog, "matari" means "fierce eyes". Interesting isn't it.

[migueldiaz]

Originally Posted by Battara

Good example of linguistics is the word "mata". In Hawaii and as far away as Easter Island, it means "eye". In Tagalog, "matari" means "fierce eyes". Interesting isn't it.

indeed here are other examples:

parao - Tagalog (Phils.)
folau - Polynesia
barau - Efate
farau - Tahiti
volau - Fiji
poruku - Futuna
palahu - Indonesia
prau - Indonesia
broa - Formosa
palwa - Tagalog (Phils.)

bangka - Philippines
wangka - Malay, Indonesia
waka - Maori, Tonga, etc.
vaka - Vaturana, Savo, etc.
vaga - Alite
va'a - Tahiti
wa - Mate, Lamenu, Nul, etc.
waha - Ceram
wak - Numer
paki - Fila
wakten - Port Vato

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Battara

Good example of linguistics is the word "mata". In Hawaii and as far away as Easter Island, it means "eye". In Tagalog, "matari" means "fierce eyes". Interesting isn't it.

In Bahasa Indonesia it mean as well "eye" and matahari means "sun".

[Battara]

Thanks Sajen. I wondered since Filipino languages, Indonesian and Malaysian languages are all related.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Battara

Thanks Sajen. I wondered since Filipino languages, Indonesian and Malaysian languages are all related.

Yes, all three are malay languages.

Regards,

Detlef

[Dimasalang]

Originally Posted by Spunjer

actually, on the first edition of the map, it WAS marked. it was later removed so it wouldn't cause any mass hysteria.
Ye Original Map

HAHHAHAHAH Good one!

Originally Posted by laEspadaAncha

Re: the map, it seems to resonate with any/every anthro class (read: both) I took. In that one static image, you can almost envision the waves of migration of different peoples over millennia, with each successive "invader" more often than not pushing the previously settled people further from the coast.

At a glance, based on the map it would appear as if the (Austronesian?) Igorot were the original inhabitants, followed by Negrito migrations (from PNG or Melanesia?), followed by the comparably "recent" migrations from elsewhere in SE Asia. Is this even remotely accurate?

I have also read the same...much of the early original settlers being killed off and chased up the mountains by waves of the next migrations. It looks to be true and accurate judging by the placement of the two earlier inhabitants. I tend to follow that theory.

I am guessing there was a lot of Dragon slaying as well, since the Dragons were also pushed to the highlands of Samar/Leyte.

[migueldiaz]

Originally Posted by Spunjer

actually, on the first edition of the map, it WAS marked. it was later removed so it wouldn't cause any mass hysteria.

yo spunjer, man that was a spoiler!

that info is supposed to come out way till the end, on how the visayan hilt design really came about (see att.) hey, how's everything?

@dimasalang, thanks for the info on waller. that was very interesting. those sohoton cliffs in samar is surely one thing i have to add now to the places to visit before i die. what other books or reading would you recommend on the action in samar, during the phil-am war? thanks in advance!

[Spunjer]

Originally Posted by migueldiaz

yo spunjer, man that was a spoiler!

that info is supposed to come out way till the end, on how the visayan hilt design really came about (see att.) hey, how's everything?

well, mystery solved!!! those hilts WERE designed after them fabled dragons, lol. family's doing great bro! heard you guys has a visitor (actually visitors) lately. that's pretty cool!

[migueldiaz]

Originally Posted by Spunjer

well, mystery solved!!! those hilts WERE designed after them fabled dragons, lol. family's doing great bro! heard you guys has a visitor (actually visitors) lately. that's pretty cool!

and via oral tradition we know that one of them who lived by the sea was called paf (english spelling: puff)

yep they were here. and we had lunch with nacho & reichsritter. among other activities we surveyed the 1904 st. louis expo sandata that are now at the phil. national museum (pic attached).

[Spunjer]

nothing but good things about you guys, is what i heard... hopefully next year would be my turn. we're having a reunion at CPU, so checking out bandholtz collection is definitely in my to do list. would love to see the pre hispanic collection. but most of all, sisig and sarsi

[migueldiaz]

Originally Posted by Spunjer

nothing but good things about you guys, is what i heard... hopefully next year would be my turn. we're having a reunion at CPU, so checking out bandholtz collection is definitely in my to do list. would love to see the pre hispanic collection. but most of all, sisig and sarsi

that would be great if your trip will push thru! yes aside from the bandholtz items, the prehispanic collection is a must-see. i think it's very useful to look back that far back in time. when we do that, the more we discover that our many islands have a solid common root. just tell us when you'll arrive so we can ready the marching band upon your arrival at the airport ... then on to the sisig and sari en route to the museums