Translation Assistance Requested for Kaskara Hilt

A.alnakkas · 11th February 2011, 08:48 AM

Hey Dave,

I have been thinking of this all day. Nope, still makes no sense. I'll check around maybe someone will know a connection between the two.

It could be related to Sudanese accent which in that case, i can offer little assistance.

laEspadaAncha · 12th February 2011, 05:21 AM

I hope the title didn't exclude the VS community at large from commenting on the kaskara. I am looking forward to - and asking for - input from others regarding the sword...

In particular, given the thuluth script, would you consider this to be a Mahdist era exmaple? To what part of the Sudan would you attribute this?

Regards,

Chris

DaveS · 12th February 2011, 06:21 AM

Chris: I looked high and low for those old catalogues. Haven't been able to
find them yet. But i'm sure i did see a kaskara in one of Fagans old books
that had a bone handle. But i will keep looking. You've got my curiosity up.
Dave.

laEspadaAncha · 12th February 2011, 05:54 PM

Hi Dave,

Thank you for searching nonetheless.

Any thoughts or estimations regarding age and/or particular area of attribution? I assume it's Sudanese, but am of the understanding there is some degree of variability in form from region to region.

Regards,

Chris

Dom · 8th January 2013, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A.alnakkas

Hey Dave,

I have been thinking of this all day. Nope, still makes no sense. I'll check around maybe someone will know a connection between the two.

It could be related to Sudanese accent which in that case, i can offer little assistance.

I come to rescue ... my Bro. Abdallatif

Lotfi, you're correct when you're mentioning
"still makes no sense"
Taghrid has got the translation;
"ASSAD" either "LION" and "EL ADGLE" either "THE JUSTICE"

the problem is ... there is no meaning

- it's a "literal translation", and not the translation of the meaning
- it's cant be a name
- Taghrid suggest that a part of the script is missing

à +

Dom

laEspadaAncha · 8th January 2013, 01:48 AM

Hello Dom,

Thank you for asking your 'other half' to have a look...

This is the same translation as provided by a friend of mine some time after starting this thread. Unfortunately, I can find no contextual reference to whom this may have been in reference to, though I hope it might be of some use to Mefidk in his efforts to research the origin of the thuluth-covered kaskaras.

Cheers,

Chris

12th February 2011, 06:21 AM	#3
DaveS Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 327	kaskara handle Chris: I looked high and low for those old catalogues. Haven't been able to find them yet. But i'm sure i did see a kaskara in one of Fagans old books that had a bone handle. But i will keep looking. You've got my curiosity up. Dave.

11th February 2011, 08:48 AM	#1
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,340	Hey Dave, I have been thinking of this all day. Nope, still makes no sense. I'll check around maybe someone will know a connection between the two. It could be related to Sudanese accent which in that case, i can offer little assistance.

12th February 2011, 05:21 AM	#2
laEspadaAncha Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 608	I hope the title didn't exclude the VS community at large from commenting on the kaskara. I am looking forward to - and asking for - input from others regarding the sword... In particular, given the thuluth script, would you consider this to be a Mahdist era exmaple? To what part of the Sudan would you attribute this? Regards, Chris

12th February 2011, 05:54 PM	#4
laEspadaAncha Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 608	Hi Dave, Thank you for searching nonetheless. Any thoughts or estimations regarding age and/or particular area of attribution? I assume it's Sudanese, but am of the understanding there is some degree of variability in form from region to region. Regards, Chris

8th January 2013, 01:48 AM	#6
laEspadaAncha Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 608	Hello Dom, Thank you for asking your 'other half' to have a look... This is the same translation as provided by a friend of mine some time after starting this thread. Unfortunately, I can find no contextual reference to whom this may have been in reference to, though I hope it might be of some use to Mefidk in his efforts to research the origin of the thuluth-covered kaskaras. Cheers, Chris