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B.I · 30th June 2005, 12:20 AM

hi,
great post and wonderful images.
i must say, though, all the pieces are not in the warsaw museum.
the first image (helmet mask) is in khalilis collection and was bought in england in the mid eighties. the second (helmet) and third (shield) is owned privately in england and i've seen both when they were in london. another helmet (image 6) is also in the same collection.
all great pieces and i must say this post is long overdue

Aqtai · 30th June 2005, 09:36 AM

I think i'm having a heart attack... sensory overload...

Great pictures, thank you!

Here is my humble contribution:

Just a couple of comments; that helmet in Japan, the shape and the peak remind me of Ottoman and Mamluk chichaks. This makes me wonder if the chichak was influenced by Mongol styles. Finally I have just noticed how the Mongols in the west, i.e. Polish and Lithuanian Tatars adopted Caucasian and Ottoman styles of armour, whereas Tibet, which was no longer ruled by the Mongols in the 19th century, still used traditional lamellar armour.

30th June 2005, 12:20 AM	#1
B.I Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 485	hi, great post and wonderful images. i must say, though, all the pieces are not in the warsaw museum. the first image (helmet mask) is in khalilis collection and was bought in england in the mid eighties. the second (helmet) and third (shield) is owned privately in england and i've seen both when they were in london. another helmet (image 6) is also in the same collection. all great pieces and i must say this post is long overdue

30th June 2005, 09:36 AM	#2
Aqtai Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Merseyside, UK Posts: 222	I think i'm having a heart attack... sensory overload... Great pictures, thank you! Here is my humble contribution: Just a couple of comments; that helmet in Japan, the shape and the peak remind me of Ottoman and Mamluk chichaks. This makes me wonder if the chichak was influenced by Mongol styles. Finally I have just noticed how the Mongols in the west, i.e. Polish and Lithuanian Tatars adopted Caucasian and Ottoman styles of armour, whereas Tibet, which was no longer ruled by the Mongols in the 19th century, still used traditional lamellar armour.