SUMATRA TAPAK KUDA HILT FORMS

BluErf · 31st January 2011, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

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Rick's example - I have a similar one too. It's on a panjang which is probably from the more Northern areas of Sumatra. However, it is so simple that I'm not sure if it could be a generic form and not attributable to any region in Sumatra.

VVV · 31st January 2011, 04:40 PM

Nice hilts!

The last ones seems to be related to my green hilt, the one Detlef didn't like

I agree with Kai Wee that it looks like a hidden man.

Michael

Sajen · 31st January 2011, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VVV

Nice hilts!

The last ones seems to be related to my green hilt, the one Detlef didn't like

I agree with Kai Wee that it looks like a hidden man.

Michael

I am sure you understand me correct!

VANDOO · 31st January 2011, 06:32 PM

ARE THE MORE ORNATELY CARVED KERIS HANDLES IN THIS FORM USUALLY FOUND ON WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS EXECUTIONERS KERIS?? MOST I HAVE PERSONALLY SEEN HAVE BEEN ON THE EXECUTIONERS KERIS. IS THE LONG EXECUTIONERS FORM OF KERIS MORE COMMON IN SUMATRA THAN IN OTHER PLACES OR IS THE FORM WIDESPREAD.??

David · 31st January 2011, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VANDOO

ARE THE MORE ORNATELY CARVED KERIS HANDLES IN THIS FORM USUALLY FOUND ON WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS EXECUTIONERS KERIS?? MOST I HAVE PERSONALLY SEEN HAVE BEEN ON THE EXECUTIONERS KERIS. IS THE LONG EXECUTIONERS FORM OF KERIS MORE COMMON IN SUMATRA THAN IN OTHER PLACES OR IS THE FORM WIDESPREAD.??

I must say that i'm not particularly fond of the term "executioners" keris because it's pretty misrepresentative of the form. Not the keris panjang were never used in executions, but i do not believe it is the purpose of the form.

BluErf · 1st February 2011, 05:46 AM

I think the long form of the hilt for keris panjang is a matter of aesthetic balance. Given the long batang, it needs to be balanced by a tall hilt. Also, many keris panjang have long peksi, so you'd need a tall hilt to accommodate that.

Hi Michael,

What green hilt? I don't see any green hilt in this post.

GIO · 1st February 2011, 07:19 PM

Some more examples of tapak kuda hilts.
All horn, except one in (I suppose) marine ivory.

1st February 2011, 07:19 PM	#7
GIO Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 331	Some more examples of tapak kuda hilts. All horn, except one in (I suppose) marine ivory. Attached Images

31st January 2011, 04:40 PM	#2
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Nice hilts! The last ones seems to be related to my green hilt, the one Detlef didn't like I agree with Kai Wee that it looks like a hidden man. Michael

31st January 2011, 06:32 PM	#4
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	ARE THE MORE ORNATELY CARVED KERIS HANDLES IN THIS FORM USUALLY FOUND ON WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS EXECUTIONERS KERIS?? MOST I HAVE PERSONALLY SEEN HAVE BEEN ON THE EXECUTIONERS KERIS. IS THE LONG EXECUTIONERS FORM OF KERIS MORE COMMON IN SUMATRA THAN IN OTHER PLACES OR IS THE FORM WIDESPREAD.??

1st February 2011, 05:46 AM	#6
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	I think the long form of the hilt for keris panjang is a matter of aesthetic balance. Given the long batang, it needs to be balanced by a tall hilt. Also, many keris panjang have long peksi, so you'd need a tall hilt to accommodate that. Hi Michael, What green hilt? I don't see any green hilt in this post.