BIRD FORM KERIS HANDLES, SUMATRA

Sajen · 27th January 2011, 08:20 PM

Here a similar one like the first you have shown.

VVV · 27th January 2011, 08:52 PM

Here is my Burung.

VANDOO · 28th January 2011, 05:19 AM

HERE IS ANOTHER ONE TWO DIFFERENT VIEWS, AND ONE DESCRIBED AS NEW BUGIS AND THE LAST ONE WAS LABELED TEGAL I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS??
I AM SURPRIZED AT THE VARIETY OF THESE ITS A PLEASURE TO SEE THEM.

David · 28th January 2011, 02:17 PM

Barry, i suspect that your last one here might not have been intended as a bird, but instead one of the long nosed wayang character. I have a similar example which i definitely do not interpret as a bird.

VANDOO · 28th January 2011, 04:56 PM

IT IS SOMETIMES DIFFICULT TO BE SURE BUT I THINK YOU ARE CORRECT. I CERTIANLY SEE NO BIRD IN YOUR EXCELLENT EXAMPLE, THE ONE I POSTED HAS A LOT OF CARVED DESIGN ON THE FACE AND HEAD (FEATHERS OR HAIR)??
BUT BOTH SHURELY HAVE A BIG BEAK , I THINK I WILL NAME HIM CYRANO

DOES THE WAYANG CHARACTER HAVE QUALITIES LIKE CYRANO

David · 28th January 2011, 04:59 PM

When the "beak" turns upward like both these example do i tend to question the bird attribution. Same goes for the tajong hilts which have long been described (mistakenly i believe) as "kingfisher" hilts.

VANDOO · 9th February 2011, 12:52 AM

HERE ARE A COUPLE MORE OF BIRD FORM, I AM NOT SURE WHERE THEY ARE FROM. THE IVORY PARROT IS IN THE COLLECTION IN THE K. L. MUSEUM. PERHAPS YOU HAVE SEEN IT BEFORE? BUT I DON'T GET TIRED OF LOOKING AT IT

SO ENJOY

27th January 2011, 08:20 PM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,333	Here a similar one like the first you have shown. Attached Images

27th January 2011, 08:52 PM	#2
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Here is my Burung. Attached Images

28th January 2011, 05:19 AM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	HERE IS ANOTHER ONE TWO DIFFERENT VIEWS, AND ONE DESCRIBED AS NEW BUGIS AND THE LAST ONE WAS LABELED TEGAL I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS?? I AM SURPRIZED AT THE VARIETY OF THESE ITS A PLEASURE TO SEE THEM. Attached Images Last edited by VANDOO; 28th January 2011 at 04:58 PM.

28th January 2011, 02:17 PM	#4
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,237	Barry, i suspect that your last one here might not have been intended as a bird, but instead one of the long nosed wayang character. I have a similar example which i definitely do not interpret as a bird. Attached Images

9th February 2011, 12:52 AM	#7
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	HERE ARE A COUPLE MORE OF BIRD FORM, I AM NOT SURE WHERE THEY ARE FROM. THE IVORY PARROT IS IN THE COLLECTION IN THE K. L. MUSEUM. PERHAPS YOU HAVE SEEN IT BEFORE? BUT I DON'T GET TIRED OF LOOKING AT IT SO ENJOY Attached Images

28th January 2011, 04:56 PM	#5
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	IT IS SOMETIMES DIFFICULT TO BE SURE BUT I THINK YOU ARE CORRECT. I CERTIANLY SEE NO BIRD IN YOUR EXCELLENT EXAMPLE, THE ONE I POSTED HAS A LOT OF CARVED DESIGN ON THE FACE AND HEAD (FEATHERS OR HAIR)?? BUT BOTH SHURELY HAVE A BIG BEAK , I THINK I WILL NAME HIM CYRANO DOES THE WAYANG CHARACTER HAVE QUALITIES LIKE CYRANO

28th January 2011, 04:59 PM	#6
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,237	When the "beak" turns upward like both these example do i tend to question the bird attribution. Same goes for the tajong hilts which have long been described (mistakenly i believe) as "kingfisher" hilts.