Keris Bali

henri · 19th January 2011, 09:41 PM

Thank you all to welcome me and for your help and input . First post to this forum ..... and really not disappointed !

Bought this keris 17 luks last week with a balato . A little bit less fancy than the previous one but a nice dapur and a typical bali hilt . The warangka seems to be original but new gandar . All comments are welcome !

Henri

David · 20th January 2011, 04:04 AM

I like this one Henri. Normally i would recommend that you start a new thread to discuss a completely different keris unless you think there is some connection. Since we have these two together i would have to say that this second keris has much more original and old integrity than your first offerring. The 17 luks make it a bit unusual too. Simple, but sweet.

Sajen · 20th January 2011, 08:51 PM

Agree complete with David, this keris seems to be in all parts original.

How fit the blade inside the sheath?

Regards,

Detlef

Henk · 20th January 2011, 09:15 PM

Great keris the second one. A beauty by its honest simplicity. Congrats on that one.
In this case less is certainly more.

henri · 21st January 2011, 12:37 AM

Thank you David , Sajen and Henk .

Sajen , the blade fit perfectly . The warangka has a nice polished finish but new gandar . Nobody is perfect !

GIO · 25th January 2011, 06:58 PM

The first keris reminds me one reproduced in Ghiringhelli's first book (page41).
The particular curls, however, match a practically straight blade, though somewhat bent on one side. Since, according to the Authors, dapur and ganja seem to be inter connected, this type of ganja should only match with a straight blade, and not with luks as it is the case.

VANDOO · 27th January 2011, 11:51 PM

HERE ARE PICTURES OF A BALI KERIS SIMULAR TO THE ONE IN THE FIRST PICTURES. IT IS MODERN AND DONE IN THE TYPICAL BALI STYLE. IT IS CERTIANLY ART BUT IS IT A KERIS?
IT HAS EXCELLENT WOOD CARVING AND METAL WORK AND SET WITH LOW QUALITY GEM STONES AND IS A BEAUTIFUL HIGH END ITEM. IF LOCAL PEOPLE IN BALI BUY THEM FOR A FAMILY KERIS THEN ITS A KERIS. IF ONLY TOURISTS BUY THEM FOR SOUVINEERS BECAUSE THEY ARE PRETTY THEN THEY ARE ART IN THE FORM OF A KERIS. AT LEAST THATS MY VIEW ON IT.

I DO LIKE THIS TYPE OF ITEM AS THE WORKMANSHIP IS IMPRESSIVE AND A COLLECTION OF THIS SORT OF HIGH END KERIS WOULD BE BEAUTIFUL (BUT EXPENSIVE

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I JUST FEEL THESE KERIS ARE NOT A PART OF TODAYS KERIS SOCIETY. UNLESS THEY ARE SOMETIMES USED TODAY FOR TAILSMAN, STATUS ,TEMPLE OFFERINGS OR CEREMONY??

19th January 2011, 09:41 PM	#1
henri Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 81	Thank you all to welcome me and for your help and input . First post to this forum ..... and really not disappointed ! Bought this keris 17 luks last week with a balato . A little bit less fancy than the previous one but a nice dapur and a typical bali hilt . The warangka seems to be original but new gandar . All comments are welcome ! Henri Attached Images

27th January 2011, 11:51 PM	#7
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	HERE ARE PICTURES OF A BALI KERIS SIMULAR TO THE ONE IN THE FIRST PICTURES. IT IS MODERN AND DONE IN THE TYPICAL BALI STYLE. IT IS CERTIANLY ART BUT IS IT A KERIS? IT HAS EXCELLENT WOOD CARVING AND METAL WORK AND SET WITH LOW QUALITY GEM STONES AND IS A BEAUTIFUL HIGH END ITEM. IF LOCAL PEOPLE IN BALI BUY THEM FOR A FAMILY KERIS THEN ITS A KERIS. IF ONLY TOURISTS BUY THEM FOR SOUVINEERS BECAUSE THEY ARE PRETTY THEN THEY ARE ART IN THE FORM OF A KERIS. AT LEAST THATS MY VIEW ON IT. I DO LIKE THIS TYPE OF ITEM AS THE WORKMANSHIP IS IMPRESSIVE AND A COLLECTION OF THIS SORT OF HIGH END KERIS WOULD BE BEAUTIFUL (BUT EXPENSIVE ) I JUST FEEL THESE KERIS ARE NOT A PART OF TODAYS KERIS SOCIETY. UNLESS THEY ARE SOMETIMES USED TODAY FOR TAILSMAN, STATUS ,TEMPLE OFFERINGS OR CEREMONY?? Attached Images

20th January 2011, 04:04 AM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,219	I like this one Henri. Normally i would recommend that you start a new thread to discuss a completely different keris unless you think there is some connection. Since we have these two together i would have to say that this second keris has much more original and old integrity than your first offerring. The 17 luks make it a bit unusual too. Simple, but sweet.

20th January 2011, 08:51 PM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,214	Agree complete with David, this keris seems to be in all parts original. How fit the blade inside the sheath? Regards, Detlef

20th January 2011, 09:15 PM	#4
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Great keris the second one. A beauty by its honest simplicity. Congrats on that one. In this case less is certainly more.

21st January 2011, 12:37 AM	#5
henri Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 81	Thank you David , Sajen and Henk . Sajen , the blade fit perfectly . The warangka has a nice polished finish but new gandar . Nobody is perfect !

25th January 2011, 06:58 PM	#6
GIO Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 329	The first keris reminds me one reproduced in Ghiringhelli's first book (page41). The particular curls, however, match a practically straight blade, though somewhat bent on one side. Since, according to the Authors, dapur and ganja seem to be inter connected, this type of ganja should only match with a straight blade, and not with luks as it is the case.