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1: That pata on the left caught my attention, too. A rather unusual shape, but it being a transitional form makes perfect sense.
2: Even if Spiral hadn't paid for the right to take the photos, the copyright is his. It is the depiction, not the thing depicted, which is copyrighted. Someone esle could take nearly the same photo and have an independent copyright, for example, but Spiral has the right to dictate how his photos are used (or not used). 3: For the amount of free legal advise I give out, you guys should put me on retainer. ![]() |
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By the same token, some of you (no names, medical confidentiality!) asked my advise on behalf of their friends with erectile dysfunction. To you, guys, I would have recommended magic cure for free, but your unnamed friends have to pay the bill: this is not Russia or England, after all! I prefer to get my honoraria in shashkas. |
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Well chaps, The little Pata may be about 3 ft long as I seem to remember.
The sword has writing or squiggle patterns anyway ![]() Hers some more unusual pieces! Kora & a sword {khanda I guess?}with a 6ft plus blade! Cheers for the history lesson & legal perspective guys! Spiral Photo. copywright Spiral JRS 2005. If used elswere please include aknowledgment. |
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Spiral,what an amazing group of weapons! The kukri, which by itself would be a stunner, looks absolutely dull when contrasted with the fantastic koras, the ram dao, and the khanda and shield! Did giants really walk the earth?
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Cool weapons.
Not being a lawyer, I'll stay out of that discussion ![]() However, I think that the thin-bladed swords might be "firangi" blades, which i believe were European rapier blades (trade blades) fitted with Indian handles. As for the patas, I thought the bigger ones got up to 4' long. 3' would look stubby if this is so, although I think it's a saner length. Then again, the losers had the short swords, so go figure. Fearn |
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The word rapier comes from Spanish "espada ropera", dress sword. The older European swords supplying their blades for the "firangis" were pretty broad and sturdy. Dress swords were semi-ceremonial and, if used for fighting, were mostly (not entirely!) for stabbing and as such often triangular.. They were shortish (one would not expect a fancy gentleman to drag a long piece or iron oved the dancing floor!). The ones in the Nepalese museum look very long, narrow and flat: slashers mostly, like patas. Would be interesting to know their actual dimensions: that would help a lot. |
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For perspective of size, cases 1 & 3 {internaly} are the same height as a Brown Bess musket. {60 inches.} not sure about case 2.
Would like to have recorded more data than I did, other than photos, & sparse notes & did with some kukri, but theres probably between 1000 & 1200 weapons on display. {manily kora, kukri, khanda, katar & tulwar.} I could have happily stuided each piece for several hours! ![]() If only! Spiral |
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Then I realised we had no reference point ... Any info on the actual size? |
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