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Tim Simmons · 17th December 2010, 04:48 PM

David ie Katana, you are right on further inspection the binding is indeed sinew. I know the stones in the last pictures I post have a groove, I was interested in the bent round and bound stick. The resin that covers the stone is softer {than the stuff I have} in that it does not dry as brittle and if you wanted to you could force your nail or other object into it. I am pleased to see pictures of all the ball forward club which suggest this follows a traditional form. I have said it would not take a master to reproduce items like this. If this is a hobby piece then it was done long ago. I like to think I have been collecting old looking stuff for a few years at least. Does it really look new in the pictures?

Tim Simmons · 17th December 2010, 06:11 PM

This is a very curious feature to this club, four tiny Zinc? pins. There are sections of under painting on this club that show through the raw hide. The wet hide has been bound when wet to harden on the club stick. The raw hide on this club is not as fine parchment like as on the bound stone club. Although the stone on this club is small I think it could still crack your skull equally there must have been dance clubs? The pins are a strange addition?

I am still on the fence, but a great deal more of my weight is leaning to possible authentic pieces.

Tim Simmons · 17th December 2010, 08:49 PM

I have just thought of the answer to the metal pins. It is the forgers, hobbyists signing off, like a master forger painting a digital wristwatch on a fake Gainsborough.

17th December 2010, 04:48 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,856	Still steaming along. David ie Katana, you are right on further inspection the binding is indeed sinew. I know the stones in the last pictures I post have a groove, I was interested in the bent round and bound stick. The resin that covers the stone is softer {than the stuff I have} in that it does not dry as brittle and if you wanted to you could force your nail or other object into it. I am pleased to see pictures of all the ball forward club which suggest this follows a traditional form. I have said it would not take a master to reproduce items like this. If this is a hobby piece then it was done long ago. I like to think I have been collecting old looking stuff for a few years at least. Does it really look new in the pictures?

17th December 2010, 06:11 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,856	The Flint Head Club This is a very curious feature to this club, four tiny Zinc? pins. There are sections of under painting on this club that show through the raw hide. The wet hide has been bound when wet to harden on the club stick. The raw hide on this club is not as fine parchment like as on the bound stone club. Although the stone on this club is small I think it could still crack your skull equally there must have been dance clubs? The pins are a strange addition? I am still on the fence, but a great deal more of my weight is leaning to possible authentic pieces. Attached Images

17th December 2010, 08:49 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,856	I have just thought of the answer to the metal pins. It is the forgers, hobbyists signing off, like a master forger painting a digital wristwatch on a fake Gainsborough. Last edited by Tim Simmons; 17th December 2010 at 09:34 PM. Reason: spelling