Tourist trinkets? Bich'Hwa, Khatar, Jambiya

Emanuel · 16th December 2010, 09:52 PM

Pretty trinkets indeed Manolo, wish I could stumble on such a group in my neck of the woods.

Congrats on a very good find!

Emanuel

delor · 17th December 2010, 12:38 AM

The persian blade might be wootz too. Most of them with such sculpted handle are.

The katar koftagi seems a bit unusual. Would it be possible for you to show a closer view ?

celtan · 17th December 2010, 01:42 AM

Hi Guys,

I'm very pleasantly surprised..!

The jambiya looks too decorated to be...real? I just don't see a persian chieftain carrying it under his belt. I understood that muslims are loathe to depict human form in their art. The figures appear to be of the assyrian-babylonian past, not muslim at all. Nonetheless, very appealing art. Buffalo horn?

Also, the Bishwa's blade attachment to the brass hilt looks too flimsy to be useful as a weapon. A strong hit could presumably separate both. Its blade is single, and the orientation runs parallel to the plane between handle and knuckle-guard, while the bich'hwa blades I have seen are perpendicular to it.

The katar handle is very ... narrow. I don't see how an adult could grab it effectively. Is that copper or brass inlaid into the handle?

What do you think of these points..? And thanks for this opportunity to learn.

Best regards and Merry Xmas!

Manolo

BTW: If someone could send me a PM with what they believe would be average current value, it would be very appreciated. If significant, it would also help to keep them out of wifey's hands...

17th December 2010, 01:42 AM	#3
celtan Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: PR, USA Posts: 679	Hi Guys, I'm very pleasantly surprised..! The jambiya looks too decorated to be...real? I just don't see a persian chieftain carrying it under his belt. I understood that muslims are loathe to depict human form in their art. The figures appear to be of the assyrian-babylonian past, not muslim at all. Nonetheless, very appealing art. Buffalo horn? Also, the Bishwa's blade attachment to the brass hilt looks too flimsy to be useful as a weapon. A strong hit could presumably separate both. Its blade is single, and the orientation runs parallel to the plane between handle and knuckle-guard, while the bich'hwa blades I have seen are perpendicular to it. The katar handle is very ... narrow. I don't see how an adult could grab it effectively. Is that copper or brass inlaid into the handle? What do you think of these points..? And thanks for this opportunity to learn. Best regards and Merry Xmas! Manolo BTW: If someone could send me a PM with what they believe would be average current value, it would be very appreciated. If significant, it would also help to keep them out of wifey's hands... Attached Images Last edited by celtan; 17th December 2010 at 02:06 AM.

16th December 2010, 09:52 PM	#1
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Pretty trinkets indeed Manolo, wish I could stumble on such a group in my neck of the woods. Congrats on a very good find! Emanuel

17th December 2010, 12:38 AM	#2
delor Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Marseille - France Posts: 73	The persian blade might be wootz too. Most of them with such sculpted handle are. The katar koftagi seems a bit unusual. Would it be possible for you to show a closer view ?