Labels, true or just heaps of bull****

David · 15th December 2010, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Nagawarrior

The label on this Mandaya sword I believe is honest and helps date the item. I traced the name on it to a Kentucky politician that apparently liked to travel at the turn of the last century.

See thread discussing the sword here.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=11397

Yes, it does look like a nice old label and you are fortunate that the name is of a prominent politician that was easily traceable. The label of "Indian Natives" is a bit misleading though.

Nagawarrior · 15th December 2010, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by David

Yes, it does look like a nice old label and you are fortunate that the name is of a prominent politician that was easily traceable. The label of "Indian Natives" is a bit misleading though.

I think that people back in the day refered to aboriginal peoples from tribal cultures as "indian natives". The North American Tribal people were given the misnomer of "Indian". I believe the explorers thought they had found India.

David · 15th December 2010, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Nagawarrior

I think that people back in the day refered to aboriginal peoples from tribal cultures as "indian natives". The North American Tribal people were given the misnomer of "Indian". I believe the explorers thought they had found India.

Yes, i believe that is why i stated it was misleading...

aiontay · 15th December 2010, 12:49 PM

My White aunt does a really good job of cutting leather fringe (and rolling it), it looks good on one of my uncle's lances. And hair still on the hide? Doesn't sound too good to me.

David · 15th December 2010, 03:14 PM

I have to say that the more i search for and look at images of Native American war clubs on the net the more i only see stone heads that are meticulously bound and wrapped to their sticks and not completely slathered in resin as this one is. I would love to see an image of just one authenticated club that is bound like Tim's is before i could consider the authenticity of this one.

Jeff D · 15th December 2010, 04:25 PM

I don't know if this helps prove or disprove the authenticity of Tim's clubs, but, here are a few from the Glenbow Museum in Calgary Alberta.

Jeff

David · 15th December 2010, 05:31 PM

Thanks Jeff. Looks like a lot of what i am seeing in these clubs. Not particularly supportive of authenticity for me.

15th December 2010, 04:25 PM	#6
Jeff D Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 473	I don't know if this helps prove or disprove the authenticity of Tim's clubs, but, here are a few from the Glenbow Museum in Calgary Alberta. Jeff Attached Images

15th December 2010, 12:49 PM	#4
aiontay Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 88	My White aunt does a really good job of cutting leather fringe (and rolling it), it looks good on one of my uncle's lances. And hair still on the hide? Doesn't sound too good to me.

15th December 2010, 03:14 PM	#5
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,229	I have to say that the more i search for and look at images of Native American war clubs on the net the more i only see stone heads that are meticulously bound and wrapped to their sticks and not completely slathered in resin as this one is. I would love to see an image of just one authenticated club that is bound like Tim's is before i could consider the authenticity of this one.

15th December 2010, 05:31 PM	#7
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,229	Thanks Jeff. Looks like a lot of what i am seeing in these clubs. Not particularly supportive of authenticity for me.