the quiet kid in the back of the class, Bangkung...

Spunjer · 28th November 2010, 05:32 PM

hi detlef,
blade is laminated, but not as pronounced. the blade itself is 18", and total length of the bangkung is 23".

Sajen · 28th November 2010, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunjer

hi detlef,
blade is laminated, but not as pronounced. the blade itself is 18", and total length of the bangkung is 23".

Thank's!

Maurice · 28th November 2010, 06:22 PM

Ron,

This is by far the prettiest bangkung I've ever seen.
Congrats with this great addition!
Besides the great okircarvings, I also love the hidden ratan bands in the scabbard.
That is also found sometimes on mandauscabbards.

Maurice

Robert · 28th November 2010, 06:47 PM

Yes, what a wonderful addition to your collection.

Congratulations on such a rare find.

Robert

Spunjer · 28th November 2010, 07:43 PM

yes maurice, that's exactly what i was thinking about regarding the "hidden" rattan wrap style... thanks robert!

Battara · 28th November 2010, 08:10 PM

I was so impressed by the okir carvings when I saw the pictures. Congrats!

Maurice · 28th November 2010, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunjer

yes maurice, that's exactly what i was thinking about regarding the "hidden" rattan wrap style... thanks robert!

Here an image of the "hidden" rattan wrap style on a mandauscabbard of mine.

Mytribalworld · 28th November 2010, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maurice

Ron,

This is by far the prettiest bangkung I've ever seen.
Congrats with this great addition!
Besides the great okircarvings, I also love the hidden ratan bands in the scabbard.
That is also found sometimes on mandauscabbards.

Maurice

I agree and see more mandau elements in it like the scabbard end,the line in the blade and blade point and the raised centre of the scabbard all over.

Arjan

kai · 28th November 2010, 10:24 PM

Congrats, Ron, that's one of the nicest I've seen so far of the shorter bangkung variant!

This looks very much like a piece from Palawan.

Regards,
Kai

Spunjer · 29th November 2010, 02:06 AM

that's my thought as well, kai. the form is similar to the barungs found in that area.

i wouldn't be surprise if this was inspired by a mandau, arjan. i saw a mandau once provenanced to a datu from sulu.

http://rbhayes.pastperfect-online.co...21520;type=101

t_c · 29th November 2010, 07:21 AM

Great Bangkung Spunjer, the okir work on the scabbard is especially nice.

When I saw this is, it reminded me of piece from Palawan that Ian posted:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...3&postcount=80

I'm curious about the cross section - is there a step or change in plane at the fuller?

Spunjer · 29th November 2010, 03:08 PM

t_c, i believe it's a similar type. btw, there is a step on the fuller..

t_c · 30th November 2010, 06:15 AM

Thanks Spunjer - I was asking about the fuller/cross-section because it is something I have seen on just a few blades (one of which I used to own). I was thinking this "step" to the back edge might be a specific to a region, but so far I really don't know...

Old Bangkung/Bolo(?) with what I believe might be a similar cross section:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=6271

Battara · 4th December 2010, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t_c

When I saw this is, it reminded me of piece from Palawan that Ian posted:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...3&postcount=80

Good point about Palawan - I forgot about that.

CharlesS · 24th May 2013, 05:23 PM

Here is another bangkung for reference. The blade is fairly typical, but the hilt style, especially the pommel, is unique.

The scabbard is new and is based on a historical model.

Mytribalworld · 4th December 2010, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunjer

that's my thought as well, kai. the form is similar to the barungs found in that area.

i wouldn't be surprise if this was inspired by a mandau, arjan. i saw a mandau once provenanced to a datu from sulu.

http://rbhayes.pastperfect-online.co...21520;type=101

Thanks! thats interesting info!

Arjan

28th November 2010, 06:22 PM	#3
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,462	handsome!!!!!!! Ron, This is by far the prettiest bangkung I've ever seen. Congrats with this great addition! Besides the great okircarvings, I also love the hidden ratan bands in the scabbard. That is also found sometimes on mandauscabbards. Maurice

24th May 2013, 05:23 PM	#15
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	Here is another bangkung for reference. The blade is fairly typical, but the hilt style, especially the pommel, is unique. The scabbard is new and is based on a historical model. Attached Images

28th November 2010, 05:32 PM	#1
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	hi detlef, blade is laminated, but not as pronounced. the blade itself is 18", and total length of the bangkung is 23".

28th November 2010, 06:47 PM	#4
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Yes, what a wonderful addition to your collection. Congratulations on such a rare find. Robert

28th November 2010, 07:43 PM	#5
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	yes maurice, that's exactly what i was thinking about regarding the "hidden" rattan wrap style... thanks robert!

28th November 2010, 08:10 PM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	I was so impressed by the okir carvings when I saw the pictures. Congrats!

28th November 2010, 10:24 PM	#9
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Congrats, Ron, that's one of the nicest I've seen so far of the shorter bangkung variant! This looks very much like a piece from Palawan. Regards, Kai

29th November 2010, 02:06 AM	#10
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	that's my thought as well, kai. the form is similar to the barungs found in that area. i wouldn't be surprise if this was inspired by a mandau, arjan. i saw a mandau once provenanced to a datu from sulu. http://rbhayes.pastperfect-online.co...21520;type=101

29th November 2010, 07:21 AM	#11
t_c Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: ca, usa Posts: 92	Great Bangkung Spunjer, the okir work on the scabbard is especially nice. When I saw this is, it reminded me of piece from Palawan that Ian posted: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...3&postcount=80 I'm curious about the cross section - is there a step or change in plane at the fuller?

29th November 2010, 03:08 PM	#12
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	t_c, i believe it's a similar type. btw, there is a step on the fuller..

30th November 2010, 06:15 AM	#13
t_c Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: ca, usa Posts: 92	Thanks Spunjer - I was asking about the fuller/cross-section because it is something I have seen on just a few blades (one of which I used to own). I was thinking this "step" to the back edge might be a specific to a region, but so far I really don't know... Old Bangkung/Bolo(?) with what I believe might be a similar cross section: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=6271