NZ Maori connection treen rack mystery

kahnjar1 · 22nd November 2010, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Atlantia

HI Stu,

Thanks for coming in on this one.
The plot does thicken indeed!
It seems to be quite a popular motto. I must admit, I'm more than consused now

Any thoughts as to use?

Cheers
Gene

Hi Gene,
The coincidences of date and badge I feel would be well worth following up. Perhaps an email to the Canadiens Head Office with a pic would be worthwhile. I would guess that you could get the email from their website.

Other than that I don't have anything else to suggest, but agree that it would be a shame to alter the item until it's origins are established.
A futher comment on the Ake Ake Kia Kaha thing. Yes the Maori Battalion song is exactly that, BUT the phrase is also used widely in other ways also.
Regards Stu

Rick · 22nd November 2010, 08:42 PM

I'm not so sure this is a pipe rack .

Grandfather was a pipe smoker; his racks held the pipe stem up .
This rack looks like it would hold the pipe's stem pointing down .

I would also think that the moisture, tars etc. would run down the stem and provide a very untasty smoke .

I see no depressions under each hole to hold the pipe's bowl .

kahnjar1 · 23rd November 2010, 12:09 AM

I also don't believe it is a pipe rack as it is far too big. As an aside, what is the diam. of those holes?

David · 23rd November 2010, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

I see no depressions under each hole to hold the pipe's bowl .

You're right Rick, i hadn't noticed the lack of depressions on the shelf side.

Rick · 23rd November 2010, 01:54 AM

Possibly a Club tally board or some such ?

Pegs, wins, losses, different colors ...try to imagine .

How many holes be there Gene ?

David · 23rd November 2010, 02:06 AM

Snakes aside, it seems the only St. Laurence/Northfield connection that i am finding is that St. Laurence is a church in Northfield, Birmingham.
Could this item have some church function?

Ferguson · 23rd November 2010, 02:32 AM

To further confuse things, the first HMS Maori was launched in 1909. Their ships motto was the same phrase. Have no idea about the St. Laurence Northfield connection, if there is one.

Steve

David · 23rd November 2010, 02:42 AM

Yeah Steve, i was working the naval angle for a while too. The HMS New Zealand was also also ordered built in 1909, but the Northfield connection remains elusive here as Northfield is undoubtably landlocked.

22nd November 2010, 08:42 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,365	Observation I'm not so sure this is a pipe rack . Grandfather was a pipe smoker; his racks held the pipe stem up . This rack looks like it would hold the pipe's stem pointing down . I would also think that the moisture, tars etc. would run down the stem and provide a very untasty smoke . I see no depressions under each hole to hold the pipe's bowl .

23rd November 2010, 02:06 AM	#6
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,237	Snakes aside, it seems the only St. Laurence/Northfield connection that i am finding is that St. Laurence is a church in Northfield, Birmingham. Could this item have some church function? Attached Images Last edited by David; 23rd November 2010 at 02:33 AM.

23rd November 2010, 12:09 AM	#3
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,809	I also don't believe it is a pipe rack as it is far too big. As an aside, what is the diam. of those holes?

23rd November 2010, 01:54 AM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,365	Possibly a Club tally board or some such ? Pegs, wins, losses, different colors ...try to imagine . How many holes be there Gene ?

23rd November 2010, 02:32 AM	#7
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	To further confuse things, the first HMS Maori was launched in 1909. Their ships motto was the same phrase. Have no idea about the St. Laurence Northfield connection, if there is one. Steve

23rd November 2010, 02:42 AM	#8
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,237	Yeah Steve, i was working the naval angle for a while too. The HMS New Zealand was also also ordered built in 1909, but the Northfield connection remains elusive here as Northfield is undoubtably landlocked.