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Old 18th November 2010, 02:44 PM   #1
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...could the word Jamil actually be Amil ...

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not likely... the Jawi letter that came after the Jawi spelling of Datu' in the first line is the letter JHIM that creates the equivalent of the romanise consonant sound made by the letter "J"... as in "Jug, Jiggle, Joe". For the word to be Amil... the first Jawi letter has to be a different and distinctively written one. That is the Jawi letter of "ALIF"... That letter is not present there...
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Old 19th November 2010, 02:58 AM   #2
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I would also propose that this piece is definitely pre-WWII, even perhaps pre-1900.
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Old 20th November 2010, 02:43 AM   #3
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Thanks BigG, Battara,

Here is the ole warrior restored.

Both sides of the blade now cleaned, collar and butt cap also cleaned and the wood oiled.... came up a quite nice

The collar looks to be Suassa with the brass/gold/copper tones The Butt fitting retains a green patina after a very good clean.

Seeing how well it came up, given the time, I might just get in to that Yanyuedao.

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Old 20th November 2010, 02:46 AM   #4
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Oh stop it Gav, you're killin' me!
That sure is a beauty alright. Maybe the sweetest Moro spear i've seen.
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Old 20th November 2010, 01:36 PM   #5
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Excellent restoration work. Outstanding budiak ths...
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Old 20th November 2010, 03:26 PM   #6
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Wonderful piece! Looking like brass sleeve and butt to me.........

Nice work! Old warrior back to its former glory.
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Old 20th November 2010, 03:32 PM   #7
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Congratulations for this beauty and the very good restore work!
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Old 21st November 2010, 06:49 AM   #8
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Oh stop it Gav, you're killin' me!
That sure is a beauty alright. Maybe the sweetest Moro spear i've seen.
Oh come on David , just one more..... Battara, BigG, Sajen, turned out better than I imagined.

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Old 21st November 2010, 07:03 AM   #9
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Yes, definitely brass sleeve. Say if you ever throw it in the trash, let me know so that I can come by and unburden you.
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Old 21st November 2010, 02:52 PM   #10
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Since Bangsa Moro is great sailor, I think this hook on the butt cap is useful for spearfishing (still practiced in Indonesia). The rope can be secured to the collar to like on Lee's example. Just an idea.

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