Hand Cannon Project - Help w/ Stock?

fernando · 3rd October 2010, 12:32 PM

Welcome to the forum, Mr. Scratch.
Just a pity your barrel is not an ancient genuine one ... even probably a recent output

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If i well understand, it is your desire to give it a nice look, mounting it in a stock format that pleases you and your medieval weapon aficionado friends, althoug not necessarily being an historically matching one.
Don't your friends give you some suggestions themselves? That would increase the probabilities of having a setup that would please them and also please you, at having had their knowledged participation.
On the other hand and as Michael confirms, stock shapes in the old days were a bit "free style" ... pass the term; this not meaning that Chinese mounted their cannons with European stocks and vice versa.
If you search well all (or almost all) the threads in this forum, you will find a countless number of handcannons, with distinct stock attitudes; some original, some following as much as possible the original idea and even some improvisations, result of observing so many examples posted here and also out there.
Then you may certainly be able to improvise your set up, compatible with your and your friends tastes; and also fitting your fireplace mantel.
Meanwhile and concerning freestyle setups, here are some solutions i found for some of my early European barrels.
Also you will find plenty coherent examples if you browse, for example, on Michael (Matchlock) threads.
All the best.
Fernando

Matchlock · 4th October 2010, 06:59 PM

Hi 'Nando,

Thanks a whole lot for promoting my threads, my friend!

Here is the original, actually existing late 14th century example which your fine reconstruction work illustrated at the end of your latest post is obviously based on. The hook is a modernization of ca. 1430, the earliest date when hooks on guns turned up first as I stated on several earlier occasions. The hole drilled thru the stock was most probably for pivoting on some additional mount.

It is preserved in the Firearms Museum of Suhl, Thuringia, and measures about 65 cm overall. It was a find from the attic of a nearby Schloss!!!

Best,
Michael

fernando · 4th October 2010, 08:21 PM

... And the second ones posted were inspired in a XV century Germanic "baton a feu" exhibited at the Chateau de Castelnaud.

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3rd October 2010, 12:32 PM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Welcome to the forum, Mr. Scratch. Just a pity your barrel is not an ancient genuine one ... even probably a recent output . If i well understand, it is your desire to give it a nice look, mounting it in a stock format that pleases you and your medieval weapon aficionado friends, althoug not necessarily being an historically matching one. Don't your friends give you some suggestions themselves? That would increase the probabilities of having a setup that would please them and also please you, at having had their knowledged participation. On the other hand and as Michael confirms, stock shapes in the old days were a bit "free style" ... pass the term; this not meaning that Chinese mounted their cannons with European stocks and vice versa. If you search well all (or almost all) the threads in this forum, you will find a countless number of handcannons, with distinct stock attitudes; some original, some following as much as possible the original idea and even some improvisations, result of observing so many examples posted here and also out there. Then you may certainly be able to improvise your set up, compatible with your and your friends tastes; and also fitting your fireplace mantel. Meanwhile and concerning freestyle setups, here are some solutions i found for some of my early European barrels. Also you will find plenty coherent examples if you browse, for example, on Michael (Matchlock) threads. All the best. Fernando Attached Images

4th October 2010, 06:59 PM	#2
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi 'Nando, Thanks a whole lot for promoting my threads, my friend! Here is the original, actually existing late 14th century example which your fine reconstruction work illustrated at the end of your latest post is obviously based on. The hook is a modernization of ca. 1430, the earliest date when hooks on guns turned up first as I stated on several earlier occasions. The hole drilled thru the stock was most probably for pivoting on some additional mount. It is preserved in the Firearms Museum of Suhl, Thuringia, and measures about 65 cm overall. It was a find from the attic of a nearby Schloss!!! Best, Michael Attached Images

4th October 2010, 08:21 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	... And the second ones posted were inspired in a XV century Germanic "baton a feu" exhibited at the Chateau de Castelnaud. . Attached Images