Gold on Keris

Battara · 18th September 2010, 04:48 AM

Here is what I understand is a sultan's Bugis keris that once belonged to Rsword:

Battara · 20th September 2010, 04:07 AM

I know that a lot of gold is royalty, like the keris above, but what about, say, a couple of bands of gold on the scabbard, or not as much gold on the piece?

PenangsangII · 20th September 2010, 05:34 AM

gold dress on keris, esp Malay, no matter how little or small amount, is forbidden to commoners.

BTW, the keris blade in the pic looks very Jawanese to me.

Amuk Murugul · 20th September 2010, 08:14 AM

Hullo everybody,

There are communities where gold on kerises/weapons and indeed, the wearing of gold by males, is expressly forbidden, regardless of status/rank. However, humans being human, some conveniently forget this taboo while others mix the gold into alloys etc. to circumvent this taboo.

Best,

Battara · 20th September 2010, 04:59 PM

Ok so gold is for royalty, regardless of the amount or carat of gold..............

David · 20th September 2010, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

Ok so gold is for royalty, regardless of the amount or carat of gold..............

I am not convinced that this has been fully established José.
I believe we might well find both regional and timeline differences in the numerous cultures that exist within the keris bearing world.

Battara · 20th September 2010, 08:46 PM

Ah, good point David.

18th September 2010, 04:48 AM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	Here is what I understand is a sultan's Bugis keris that once belonged to Rsword: Attached Images

20th September 2010, 08:14 AM	#4
Amuk Murugul Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kaboejoetan Galoenggoeng Mélben Posts: 472	Gold accoutrements/embellishments Hullo everybody, There are communities where gold on kerises/weapons and indeed, the wearing of gold by males, is expressly forbidden, regardless of status/rank. However, humans being human, some conveniently forget this taboo while others mix the gold into alloys etc. to circumvent this taboo. Best,

20th September 2010, 04:07 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	I know that a lot of gold is royalty, like the keris above, but what about, say, a couple of bands of gold on the scabbard, or not as much gold on the piece?

20th September 2010, 05:34 AM	#3
PenangsangII Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 401	gold dress on keris, esp Malay, no matter how little or small amount, is forbidden to commoners. BTW, the keris blade in the pic looks very Jawanese to me.

20th September 2010, 04:59 PM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	Ok so gold is for royalty, regardless of the amount or carat of gold..............

20th September 2010, 08:46 PM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	Ah, good point David.