Rusted 17th C persian shamshir within decayed scabbard

ward · 16th September 2010, 05:34 PM

Interesting sword nice heavy blade probably good watering on it. Nothing about it suggests 17 cen. tho. Grips pretty rough finished tip replaced on scabbard looks like. Would say dates around 1800. hope you will post pics once you do a test etch and see what the pattern is. Popular type sword!

M ELEY · 17th September 2010, 01:57 AM

I know what I'm about to say sounds heinous, but you can use sandpaper to remove the heavy rust spots. FINE 600 GRIT paper with some olive oil. It sounds terrible, but it really works and does not damage the blade. The finest grit feels almost like a normal piece of paper, but it has just enough resistance to remove flaky rust. I would also recommend the pineapple juice soak, works wonders. Don't ever even contemplate naval jelly!!! Only good for cleaning old tools and such as it pickles the metal odd colors (Long ago, been there, done that...

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celtan · 17th September 2010, 01:00 PM

Hi Guys,

I'll follow your counsel to the letter. Where do I get the Renaissance rust remover..? Should I begin with the pineapple juice, or will it also affect the rest of the blade..?

Best regards

Manuel

Quote:

Originally Posted by M ELEY

I know what I'm about to say sounds heinous, but you can use sandpaper to remove the heavy rust spots. FINE 600 GRIT paper with some olive oil. It sounds terrible, but it really works and does not damage the blade. The finest grit feels almost like a normal piece of paper, but it has just enough resistance to remove flaky rust. I would also recommend the pineapple juice soak, works wonders. Don't ever even contemplate naval jelly!!! Only good for cleaning old tools and such as it pickles the metal odd colors (Long ago, been there, done that...

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celtan · 11th October 2010, 03:12 PM

Just a FU note:

Found a good storage media for the soaking: A pool skimmer's tube. Cut it to the right size, it bends according to the blade's curvature, and displaces less volume, so I will need less pineapple juice. Lets see how this develops.

I will use the decorroder on the hilt, and scabbard fittings.

Best

M

celtan · 17th October 2010, 03:12 PM

Began the cleaning. Added the Pineapple juice yesterday. Tube seems to hold the juice sans leaking. So far, so good!

Rick · 17th October 2010, 03:24 PM

Now comes the patience part ...

Check every day or so and remove anything that has softened .

The solution will get very funky after a while .

celtan · 17th October 2010, 11:51 PM

Bad luck, the tube's end became unglued, and the Pineapple Juice ended up spilt on the floor.
New attempt has been made to glue it back with a stronger glue. Will try with new PJ in a couple hours.

Wish me luck!

16th September 2010, 05:34 PM	#1
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	Interesting sword nice heavy blade probably good watering on it. Nothing about it suggests 17 cen. tho. Grips pretty rough finished tip replaced on scabbard looks like. Would say dates around 1800. hope you will post pics once you do a test etch and see what the pattern is. Popular type sword!

17th September 2010, 01:57 AM	#2
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,165	I know what I'm about to say sounds heinous, but you can use sandpaper to remove the heavy rust spots. FINE 600 GRIT paper with some olive oil. It sounds terrible, but it really works and does not damage the blade. The finest grit feels almost like a normal piece of paper, but it has just enough resistance to remove flaky rust. I would also recommend the pineapple juice soak, works wonders. Don't ever even contemplate naval jelly!!! Only good for cleaning old tools and such as it pickles the metal odd colors (Long ago, been there, done that... )

11th October 2010, 03:12 PM	#4
celtan Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: PR, USA Posts: 679	Just a FU note: Found a good storage media for the soaking: A pool skimmer's tube. Cut it to the right size, it bends according to the blade's curvature, and displaces less volume, so I will need less pineapple juice. Lets see how this develops. I will use the decorroder on the hilt, and scabbard fittings. Best M

17th October 2010, 03:12 PM	#5
celtan Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: PR, USA Posts: 679	Began the cleaning. Added the Pineapple juice yesterday. Tube seems to hold the juice sans leaking. So far, so good!

17th October 2010, 03:24 PM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	Now comes the patience part ... Check every day or so and remove anything that has softened . The solution will get very funky after a while .

17th October 2010, 11:51 PM	#7
celtan Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: PR, USA Posts: 679	Bad luck, the tube's end became unglued, and the Pineapple Juice ended up spilt on the floor. New attempt has been made to glue it back with a stronger glue. Will try with new PJ in a couple hours. Wish me luck!