Small keris Bugis (?) from e-bay

[tunggulametung]

Hi Detlef,

You must have an impressive filter/keyword on ebay to be able to find this (I remember not too long ago you have a good deal with ivory hilted keris), mind to share with us? Is it something like: old,kris -rubbish

I don't have any answer/opinion for your question, unfortunately, but congrats for this found!

PS. keep the filter secret

[David]

Originally Posted by tunggulametung

You must have an impressive filter/keyword on ebay to be able to find this (I remember not too long ago you have a good deal with ivory hilted keris), mind to share with us? Is it something like: old,kris -rubbish

I think his keyword was simply "kris" as opposed to "keris". Most of us probably search with the latter spelling. Some sellers use both, but this auction appears to have just used "kris".

[tunggulametung]

Originally Posted by David

I think his keyword was simply "kris" as opposed to "keris". Most of us probably search with the latter spelling. Some sellers use both, but this auction appears to have just used "kris".

Thanks for leaking the secret keyword

By the way I notice the line on the blade where the ganja-horizontal met the bilah-vertical is curved. Perhaps this help the next poster to identify or elaborate this feature belong to/unique identity of certain region, except of course other details that counts.

Thanks.

[Gustav]

Very nice wood grain on hilt.

The carved circle is most probably a buntut imitation.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Gustav

Very nice wood grain on hilt.

The carved circle is most probably a buntut imitation.

Hello Gustav,

yes, the hilt seems to be carved from Kemuning. But the sarung have also a nice grain, I have cleaned it already and it look very nice. Tomorrow I will post some pictures.
That the circle shall be a buntut imitation is possible but when it is like this it is a later addition when the original one go lost. The carving isn't very fine and I don't think that it is from the mranggi who carved the sheath.

Regards,

Detlef

[BigG]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Hello Gustav,

yes, the hilt seems to be carved from Kemuning. But the sarung have also a nice grain, I have cleaned it already and it look very nice. Tomorrow I will post some pictures.
That the circle shall be a buntut imitation is possible but when it is like this it is a later addition when the original one go lost. The carving isn't very fine and I don't think that it is from the mranggi who carved the sheath.

Regards,

Detlef

I beleive that your sampir might be kemuning, there is no way of telling for sure unless you can show us pics of the sampir after you have clean it up. You may get wonderful chatoyance (Gehwang) after it is cleaned up & restored.

For your stem - Batang Serunai it is most probably of Sena wood, (Pterocarpus indicus) I think that is the scientific name that it is known as. It doesnt have as good a chatoyance affect as a kemuning but a respectable one. It is the choice of material for the stem Malay keris sheath. as it is lighter and believe to allow the blade to "breathe" better as oppose to the Sampir and Hulu that is usually made of kemuning and other hardwood that is beleive to have medicinal, spiritual and combat efficacy.

Which brings me to the subject of where this is from... My humble opinion is that judging from the shape of the sampr, if it is original to the piece, then the blade may be of a bugis variation from the peninsula... maybe up north. You may wish to get better insights from Alam & BlueErf on this tho. Be waiting for the restored pics...

[BigG]

I might be wrong... but it looks like a bungkem piece at the gandek area there...

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by BigG

I beleive that your sampir might be kemuning, there is no way of telling for sure unless you can show us pics of the sampir after you have clean it up. You may get wonderful chatoyance (Gehwang) after it is cleaned up & restored.

For your stem - Batang Serunai it is most probably of Sena wood, (Pterocarpus indicus) I think that is the scientific name that it is known as. It doesnt have as good a chatoyance affect as a kemuning but a respectable one. It is the choice of material for the stem Malay keris sheath. as it is lighter and believe to allow the blade to "breathe" better as oppose to the Sampir and Hulu that is usually made of kemuning and other hardwood that is beleive to have medicinal, spiritual and combat efficacy.

Which brings me to the subject of where this is from... My humble opinion is that judging from the shape of the sampr, if it is original to the piece, then the blade may be of a bugis variation from the peninsula... maybe up north. You may wish to get better insights from Alam & BlueErf on this tho. Be waiting for the restored pics...

Hello BigG,

thank's for comment. After cleaning the sarung I also think that the sampir is worked from Kemuning. I will post pictures in separate post.
Interesting that you determine the origin of the keris to Peninsula, have had the same feeling.

Best regards,

Detlef

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by tunggulametung

Hi Detlef,

You must have an impressive filter/keyword on ebay to be able to find this (I remember not too long ago you have a good deal with ivory hilted keris), mind to share with us? Is it something like: old,kris -rubbish

I don't have any answer/opinion for your question, unfortunately, but congrats for this found!

PS. keep the filter secret

Hi Chandra,

thank you! It's this time like David write, the key word have been "kris" and like Alan like to write it's also the "e-bay-gamble", the pictures haven't been very significant and it is also my "feeling" if it may be a good or bad gamble.

Best regards,

Detlef