Help with Identification please

imas560 · 11th September 2010, 12:35 AM

Hello Mr. Maisey,
I appreciate the advice and your taking the time to step me through the process.
I'll shorten up the ali foil on the hilt (was using it to protect the hilt from any damage I might inadvertently do with the candle flame).
I'll let the candle play longer on the blade to build up the heat so I can feel the heat with the hand I hold the hilt with.
Am finding the project very interesting and appreciate everyone's input/pointers.

A. G. Maisey · 11th September 2010, 01:41 AM

Imas, you will find that once you've done this two or three times its very, very easy, and this drawn out experience you're having at the moment will be like a bad memory.

The hand that holds the hilt will tell you if it is getting too hot.

The hand that holds the blade will tell you if it is not hot enough.

imas560 · 16th September 2010, 06:08 AM

Hello,
bit the bullet today and after heating up the sorsoran area used a bit more force with a semi corkscrew action and the handle came off.
Was tightly attached with yarn and rag.
Before proceeding to the de-greasing stage I have a couple of questions:
Best way to remove the yarn and rag?
Can the yarn and rag be reused?
Would dearly like to keep the keris with it's components I received it with as much as possible
Many thanks

A. G. Maisey · 16th September 2010, 08:42 AM

Just pull it off and throw it away. Its rubbish.

When you refit the hilt you will use knitting wool.

imas560 · 16th September 2010, 10:54 AM

Thanks Mr. Maisey.
Next step is the degrease which hopefully will happen this weekend.
Also have started inquiries about obtainability of arsenic.

David · 16th September 2010, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imas560

Can the yarn and rag be reused?
Would dearly like to keep the keris with it's components I received it with as much as possible

While i can understand your desire to preserve all the parts you received with your keris i agree that in this case this material is rubbish.It always seemed to be a matter of respect to the keris to give it some new wrapping when refitting everything after cleaning. Sorta like putting on clean undies after a shower.

But along that same desire to preserve, i had a couple of instances where the wrap was human hair and i have kept the remnants of those wraps in a little box. I know i'm crazy, but it just seemed too personal to part with.

Jussi M. · 16th September 2010, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

Sorta like putting on clean undies after a shower.

I just turn them around

To get back in topic, I look forward to see how this proceeds.

Thanks for sharing this.

J.

imas560 · 26th September 2010, 02:37 AM

Hello all,
spent a while trying to get an immersion suspension tube setup and finally managed to get 3 drink bottles glued together without leaks. So can now proceed with the degrease stage. I had a look in the local Asian Supermarket for some of the items mentioned (i.e. Axion dishwash liquid) but to no avail.
I used the following advice “I usually do it in the kitchen sink with warm water, dishwash liquid and soft toothbrush, then I rinse off and dry thoroughly before putting into the juice.”
I assembled the following items

I then ran the water and immersed the keris in the soapy warm water.

I then gave the keris a good scrubbing with the toothbrush, there was quite a bit of surface rust on the peksi(?)

I then proceeded to dry the keris with some towel rag

And now it should be ready for step 3.

imas560 · 26th September 2010, 02:48 AM

Hello all,
I have created an immersion suspension tube from 3 clear plastic drink bottles and Selley's All Clear Sealant. The clear plastic tubes will enable me to take pictures showing the in process effect of the juice on the blade.
The tube is sitting in a clear plastic container just in case a leak develops.
The keris fits into the tube and can be covered entirely by juice, I especially wanted the peksi covered as it appeared to have the most rust.
The amount of juice used was around 1.7 litres, the length of the keris is approx 18" (45cm). I noticed after the first couple of hours a kind of settling effect on the juice with the top 3" (7cm) noticeably more transparent.

16th September 2010, 06:08 AM	#3
imas560 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 180	Hilt removed Hello, bit the bullet today and after heating up the sorsoran area used a bit more force with a semi corkscrew action and the handle came off. Was tightly attached with yarn and rag. Before proceeding to the de-greasing stage I have a couple of questions: Best way to remove the yarn and rag? Can the yarn and rag be reused? Would dearly like to keep the keris with it's components I received it with as much as possible Many thanks

26th September 2010, 02:37 AM	#8
imas560 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 180	Step 2: Degrease Hello all, spent a while trying to get an immersion suspension tube setup and finally managed to get 3 drink bottles glued together without leaks. So can now proceed with the degrease stage. I had a look in the local Asian Supermarket for some of the items mentioned (i.e. Axion dishwash liquid) but to no avail. I used the following advice “I usually do it in the kitchen sink with warm water, dishwash liquid and soft toothbrush, then I rinse off and dry thoroughly before putting into the juice.” I assembled the following items I then ran the water and immersed the keris in the soapy warm water. I then gave the keris a good scrubbing with the toothbrush, there was quite a bit of surface rust on the peksi(?) I then proceeded to dry the keris with some towel rag And now it should be ready for step 3.

26th September 2010, 02:48 AM	#9
imas560 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 180	Step 3: Juice Soak Hello all, I have created an immersion suspension tube from 3 clear plastic drink bottles and Selley's All Clear Sealant. The clear plastic tubes will enable me to take pictures showing the in process effect of the juice on the blade. The tube is sitting in a clear plastic container just in case a leak develops. The keris fits into the tube and can be covered entirely by juice, I especially wanted the peksi covered as it appeared to have the most rust. The amount of juice used was around 1.7 litres, the length of the keris is approx 18" (45cm). I noticed after the first couple of hours a kind of settling effect on the juice with the top 3" (7cm) noticeably more transparent.

11th September 2010, 12:35 AM	#1
imas560 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 180	Hello Mr. Maisey, I appreciate the advice and your taking the time to step me through the process. I'll shorten up the ali foil on the hilt (was using it to protect the hilt from any damage I might inadvertently do with the candle flame). I'll let the candle play longer on the blade to build up the heat so I can feel the heat with the hand I hold the hilt with. Am finding the project very interesting and appreciate everyone's input/pointers.

11th September 2010, 01:41 AM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,048	Imas, you will find that once you've done this two or three times its very, very easy, and this drawn out experience you're having at the moment will be like a bad memory. The hand that holds the hilt will tell you if it is getting too hot. The hand that holds the blade will tell you if it is not hot enough.

16th September 2010, 08:42 AM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,048	Just pull it off and throw it away. Its rubbish. When you refit the hilt you will use knitting wool.

16th September 2010, 10:54 AM	#5
imas560 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 180	Thanks Mr. Maisey. Next step is the degrease which hopefully will happen this weekend. Also have started inquiries about obtainability of arsenic.