Is this a THAI or BURMESE Shield?

[Nathaniel]

Originally Posted by Mark

I think it is a Thai khen. Beautiful shield.

Or would it be classified as a daang?

From the DRI, I found these terms for shield:

dang: a large wooden shield used in Thailand, often elaborately painted (also dheng, dhung); see also daab dang.

daab dang (dheng): (Thai) a daab used one-handed with a large, rectangular shield ("dang/dheng").

khen: small, round hide or metal shield or buckler used in Thailand, often elaborately painted; see also daab khen.

daab khen: (Thai) a daab used one-handed with a buckler ("khen").


The term for shield I know in Thai is "Lo" so one to add to the list

[Mark]

Originally Posted by Nathaniel

Or would it be classified as a daang?

From the DRI, I found these terms for shield:

dang: a large wooden shield used in Thailand, often elaborately painted (also dheng, dhung); see also daab dang.

daab dang (dheng): (Thai) a daab used one-handed with a large, rectangular shield ("dang/dheng").

khen: small, round hide or metal shield or buckler used in Thailand, often elaborately painted; see also daab khen.

daab khen: (Thai) a daab used one-handed with a buckler ("khen").


The term for shield I know in Thai is "Lo" so one to add to the list

You are right, definitely a dheng. Got my wires crossed there (getting old is a drag).

[Andrew]

It's okay, Mark--that DRI guy is smart.

[Andrew]

Oh, btw, Charles--awesome sheild. Thanks for sharing it.

[Gavin Nugent]

I have read the Khen is also of this shape but narrower and the Loh is the round Dhal type. Can further clarity be offered on this please.

Gav

[Nathaniel]

Originally Posted by freebooter

I have read the Khen is also of this shape but narrower and the Loh is the round Dhal type. Can further clarity be offered on this please.

Gav

I agree...Any Thai forum members to shed some light? I'd also like to know what the forked thing is too!?

[Nathaniel]

Originally Posted by Mark

You are right, definitely a dheng. Got my wires crossed there (getting old is a drag).

Good thing you wrote it down! I know I would have to... Very thankful for the information you have up on DRI. Where did you get all the Thai terminology from? I know I was surprised to see kind of specific.

Like:

daab dang (dheng): (Thai) a daab used one-handed with a large, rectangular shield ("dang/dheng").

daab khen: (Thai) a daab used one-handed with a buckler ("khen").

daab lo: (Thai) daab used with a sheild.

I wonder how the swords might differ then? Depending on the type of shield used? I imagine this could make sense different sword and shield paired ideally for certain benefits/ conditions/ different branch/ type of soldier unit...it would be great to have pictures/ further information to identify what each would look like and why!

[PUFF]

daab dang (dheng):
daab khen:
daab lo:

These terms are more related to combat units in troop formation rather than a specific type of Dahb paired with a type of shield.

The terms are often found on old Siamese book of war.


These are examples of Dahb with different type of shields (photo taken from The National Museum).
Dahb with Khen


Dahb with Dunk


Round shields were used in this area in 12C.

[PUFF]

Please be noted that the paired Dahb with shields in the museum may not very accurate.

Also terms Loh, Dunk, Kehn are often confused even among Thai people.
Scholars often refer
Loh : any type of shields
Dunk : rectangular shields
Kehn : round shields

Modern Krabi Krabong School often refer
Loh : round shields
Dunk : rectangular shields
Kehn : rectangular shields

...

[Nathaniel]

Originally Posted by PUFF

Please be noted that the paired Dahb with shields in the museum may not very accurate.

Also terms Loh, Dunk, Kehn are often confused even among Thai people.
Scholars often refer
Loh : any type of shields
Dunk : rectangular shields
Kehn : round shields

Modern Krabi Krabong School often refer
Loh : round shields
Dunk : rectangular shields
Kehn : rectangular shields

...

K.Puff, I do not know very much about use of shields, but do you know if there was one shape of the shield better for certain situations/ certain shape shield used for different unit of the military due to their function/ role?

[Nathaniel]

Originally Posted by PUFF

daab dang (dheng):
daab khen:
daab lo:

These terms are more related to combat units in troop formation rather than a specific type of Dahb paired with a type of shield.

Ah, I just wondered because I had read about the Chinese sword used with Chinese rattan shields are more curved but this was due to fighting incoming calvary....this is just an example. I would assume that in Thailand there was not as much use of calvary?!? Or at least I have not seen much about it.

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