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Old 7th September 2010, 01:16 AM   #1
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one man's trash is another's treasure...
...and a man's treasure is another man's trash

The painter probably didn't value it at all

best of luck on the removal!
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Old 7th September 2010, 09:24 PM   #2
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Would like to thank you all for your remarks and support.

Atlantia,
The hilt is as far as i can see now from wood and i think the paint is an acryl based paint. But i'm not a painter so it is a guess. I will post some pictures.

Rick,
I tried to whipe with a cloth and spirits. It is working and i think it is the mildest way to clean it. I'm only afraid it will take some evenings to get rid of the paint. Nice job fot the comming winter .Or should i soak it in a bath?

Kukulza, you are awfully right.
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Old 7th September 2010, 09:49 PM   #3
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Okay, looks like nice progress has been made .

You may want to consider just how clean it should be for its age .

Do you plan to give the blade a soak to remove the rust ?
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Old 7th September 2010, 10:02 PM   #4
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If its acrylic paint you should be able to flake it off of the surface of the wood with your finger nail without too much loss of patina.
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Old 7th September 2010, 11:22 PM   #5
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Rick,

It depends how much rust is left. Actually i want to get rid of all the paint. In my opinion it is done by the previous owner out of greed, because i bought it at an auction house. It didn't work because i bought it for fish and chips.
Can you give me a hint how to work it out? Would like to do it as natural as possible.

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I cann't flake it off with my fingernail. Man, wished that was true...... Suppose the paint is a bit different, but removable.
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Old 8th September 2010, 12:15 AM   #6
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Rick,

It depends how much rust is left. Actually i want to get rid of all the paint. In my opinion it is done by the previous owner out of greed, because i bought it at an auction house. It didn't work because i bought it for fish and chips.
Can you give me a hint how to work it out? Would like to do it as natural as possible.

Atlantia,
I cann't flake it off with my fingernail. Man, wished that was true...... Suppose the paint is a bit different, but removable.

On the metal TBH any chemical method within 'sensible reason' will 'melt' the paint before it touches the steel.
The wood is a very different matter. The 'patina' is made up of dirt/dust and skin grease combined with gentle compression of the wood fibres.
So, it's a case of how deeply/if the paint has seeped through this coating on the wood.
Acrylic tends to sit on the surface (if the surface is non porous) because it is water based. So the lack of solvents means it's often fairly easy to remove. The greasey coating acts as a barrier to the water based paint soaking in.

An oil based paint will be more of a problem.

On the upside, whatever the offending paint is, it IS black! So some faint traces in the deeper crevasses won't matter too much.

So, first try scraping it off with something slightly softer than the old wood of the hilt and harder than the paint. Like your finger nail.
If you are really getting nowhere with that, then the next phase is to chemically remove it.
So, Ricks suggestion would be first then Battaras, gradually trying harsher chemicals until something starts to move it. After those mentioned I'd go for turps or white spirit.
but as a word of caution, a dryer approach is best so you can control the chemicals dissolving the surface. A small amount of the chemical on a cloth and wiping the surface to get a black stain is preferable to soaking and getting it bubbling off. So basically not wet. just damp, so it never goes further than you want.
Now, whatever seems to work, use until you are getting somewhere, then make it more of a chore by lessening the surface area of the wiping until you are down to using cotton buds/Q-tips.
Basically, if you're using a solvent to remove the paint then it'll remove the patina as well,s o don't go over any area more than you have to.
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Old 8th September 2010, 12:16 AM   #7
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Hello Henk, If the paint still has a strong smell it is still fresh. If you are married, try using using some of your wifes fingernail polish remover. I have used this before with pretty good success. It is mild enough that it doesn't seem to bother the patina of the wood. Hope this is of some help.

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Old 8th September 2010, 01:31 AM   #8
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The entire blade is painted ?

One might want to consider that what is now seen as black paint may be either very old varnish or shellac used by collectors as a preservative .

Just a thought .

For the blade use a strong stripper or acetone .
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