Kampilan dimension help please

Rick · 23rd August 2010, 11:48 PM

To a fast Kampilan .

Welcome .

I think the originals may vary widely .
I have two; both 19thC AFAIK .

The first one; POB 5.5" from crossguard .
Blade 29"
Max width, a skinny 2"
Two brass guards .
LOA 37"
Weight 2.25 #

The other:
POB 7.5" from crossguard
Blade, 28.5"
Max width, 1+11/16"
LOA, 38"
One steel guard .
Weight, 25 ounces .

A forum search under Kampilan will probably reveal both examples .

Rick

Battara · 24th August 2010, 12:16 AM

Mabuhay!

Well, I agree with Rick - the measurements and weights vary. I would give you mine, but it belonged to a sultan and will be a little heavier due to the ivory.

Gavin Nugent · 24th August 2010, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara

Mabuhay!

Well, I agree with Rick - the measurements and weights vary. I would give you mine, but it belonged to a sultan and will be a little heavier due to the ivory.

I would say the same as the example I have here far exceeds the size that Kampilan normally found in both blade length and hilt size.

Gavin

Rick · 24th August 2010, 01:28 AM

I reiterate; IMO distal taper is the key to a fast Kamp blade .

My blades, at their widest point are also at their thinnest, say a fat 1/16" thick ?

Dimasalang · 24th August 2010, 03:59 AM

May I ask what type of FMA you are taking? Just curious to know.

Rick · 24th August 2010, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by freebooter

I would say the same as the example I have here far exceeds the size that Kampilan normally found in both blade length and hilt size.

Gavin

Fancy, is it ?

A Datu's Bearing Kampilan perhaps ?

Or a larger Man's sword ?

imas560 · 24th August 2010, 04:52 AM

Thanks for the quick replies.
Am getting an approximate point of balance as my trainer is too front heavy (but not as top heavy as a axe). Especially interested in kampilans that may have been made for use.
Am training in Bahad Zu'bu with GM 'Yuli' Romo. He and his group have a couple of clips with staff and kampilan. From memory there is a clip of a kampilan demo that GM Yuli did in a public setting in P.I.
Also have seen a clip with Master Ricketts weilding a staff.
Hope I'm not straying too much into a FMA diversion on my first thread. Apologies if I have.
Also if my posts seem disjointed I have a 2 year old boy who requires "re-direction" every now and then.
Anyways were was I, yes kampilan trainer, am looking at altering the point of balance by drilling holes along the front top edge of the blade. The handle seems too short but am not going to change it as kampilan at 2kg is heavy, but it does mean I have to execute moves slowly and correctly.
Many thanks again for quick replies.

Gavin Nugent · 24th August 2010, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Fancy, is it ?

A Datu's Bearing Kampilan perhaps ?

Or a larger Man's sword ?

Sorry Rick, I thought you had seen it. Both I would think.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...light=kampilan

Gav

Rick · 24th August 2010, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by freebooter

Sorry Rick, I thought you had seen it. Both I would think.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...light=kampilan

Gav

Now I remember !

imas, I believe the two Kamps I posted were made as combat pieces .

Rick

imas560 · 24th August 2010, 09:27 PM

I found the photo of your two kampilans thanks Rick. Very nice.

Maurice · 24th August 2010, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Now I remember !

How is it possible to forget that one????

23rd August 2010, 11:48 PM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,347	Distal Taper Is The Key To a fast Kampilan . Welcome . I think the originals may vary widely . I have two; both 19thC AFAIK . The first one; POB 5.5" from crossguard . Blade 29" Max width, a skinny 2" Two brass guards . LOA 37" Weight 2.25 # The other: POB 7.5" from crossguard Blade, 28.5" Max width, 1+11/16" LOA, 38" One steel guard . Weight, 25 ounces . A forum search under Kampilan will probably reveal both examples . Rick

24th August 2010, 04:52 AM	#7
imas560 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 180	Thanks Thanks for the quick replies. Am getting an approximate point of balance as my trainer is too front heavy (but not as top heavy as a axe). Especially interested in kampilans that may have been made for use. Am training in Bahad Zu'bu with GM 'Yuli' Romo. He and his group have a couple of clips with staff and kampilan. From memory there is a clip of a kampilan demo that GM Yuli did in a public setting in P.I. Also have seen a clip with Master Ricketts weilding a staff. Hope I'm not straying too much into a FMA diversion on my first thread. Apologies if I have. Also if my posts seem disjointed I have a 2 year old boy who requires "re-direction" every now and then. Anyways were was I, yes kampilan trainer, am looking at altering the point of balance by drilling holes along the front top edge of the blade. The handle seems too short but am not going to change it as kampilan at 2kg is heavy, but it does mean I have to execute moves slowly and correctly. Many thanks again for quick replies.

24th August 2010, 12:16 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,310	Mabuhay! Well, I agree with Rick - the measurements and weights vary. I would give you mine, but it belonged to a sultan and will be a little heavier due to the ivory.

24th August 2010, 01:28 AM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,347	I reiterate; IMO distal taper is the key to a fast Kamp blade . My blades, at their widest point are also at their thinnest, say a fat 1/16" thick ?

24th August 2010, 03:59 AM	#5
Dimasalang Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 264	May I ask what type of FMA you are taking? Just curious to know.

24th August 2010, 09:27 PM	#10
imas560 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 180	I found the photo of your two kampilans thanks Rick. Very nice.