Persian Kard Dagger....Help With Translation Please!

[Battara]

Wait........I........see.............yes - "Made in China"

Hope this helps.

[Philip]

As Ward noted the right side is partly illegible, but from what's there, I can make out what might well be "Kalb 'Ali", with "Allah" above it.

[Lew]

Originally Posted by Philip

As Ward noted the right side is partly illegible, but from what's there, I can make out what might well be "Kalb 'Ali", with "Allah" above it.

Charles

Found this It is quite possible this dagger belong to him or was from his armoury? If you look closely at the dagger in his belt it does resemble your piece?

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sir_Kalb_Ali_Khan,_Nawab_of_Rampur_(1832-1887).jpg


Sir Kalb Ali Khan, Nawab of Rampur (1832-1887).Hajji Nawab Kalb Ali Khan Bahadur (1834-23 March 1887) was a Nawab of the princely state of Rampur from 1865 to 1887. Succeeding his father, Sir Yusef Ali Khan Bahadur, he continued his father's good works, expanding the Rampur library, constructing the Jama Masjid for Rs.3 lakhs and encouraging the spread of education, architecture, literature and art in general. A gifted ruler, Sir Kalb Ali Khan was highly literate in Arabic and Persian and patronised scholars from across India and the Islamic world. He was a member of John Lawrence's council from 1878 to his death, attended the Delhi Durbar of Queen Victoria and was granted a personal salute of 17-guns. He was succeeded at his death in 1887, aged 53, by his son, Muhammad Mushtaq Ali Khan Bahadur. [1]

[ALEX]

Originally Posted by Lew

Charles

.. It is quite possible this dagger belong to him or was from his armoury? If you look closely at the dagger in his belt it does resemble your piece? ...

Lew/Philip, even though it looks like such, there are no attributions or references to Ali or Kalb Ali on these inscriptions.

They are Quranic invocations: "Assistance from Allah and Victory Near", and "New Conqueror and New Course".. (approximate translations).

[Lew]

Originally Posted by ALEX

Lew/Philip, even though it looks like such, there are no attributions or references to Ali or Kalb Ali on these inscriptions.

They are Quranic invocations: "Assistance from Allah and Victory Near", and "New Conqueror and New Course".. (approximate translations).

Hey it was worth a shot.

[ALEX]

Originally Posted by Lew

Hey it was worth a shot.

Yes, it certainly was, Lew... and it always does! although it's increasingly difficult to determine based on a picture of sheethed kard, as it can be ANY kard. I also noticed that one had 3 pins on the top grip, opposite to two on Charle's:-) good run though!

[Lew]

Originally Posted by ALEX

Yes, it certainly was, Lew... and it always does! although it's increasingly difficult to determine based on a picture of sheethed kard, as it can be ANY kard. I also noticed that one had 3 pins on the top grip, opposite to two on Charle's:-) good run though!

Alex

I noticed the three pins but it was hard to be sure the pic was blurry at high magnication.